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This was filmed yesterday at Alpine Valley. This is a very gentle slope as I wanted to be going fairly slow so that any flaws to my skiing could easily be picked out. I'm a glutton for punishment! The conditions are hard packed to icy with lots of death cookies to ski over.

Right off the bat, I see that I need to widen my stance.
post #2 of 14
My feedback for you really would depend on your desired outcome. I will assume that it is flawless skiing. You did mention that you wanted to go slow to point out all of your flaws.
Please don't be too concerned about your width of stance. It is what it is, keep it natural for you. Let's not get started on the ideal width of stance, and the ready position for a second baseman is likely not it.
What I would like to point out is your stance over your feet. I think it is quite nice because I can see a bending at the ankle, knee, hip that is keeping you centered fore and aft.
Even though you are going slow, I would have you focus on moving you body more across the skis during edge change and not so much up against gravity. True, moving up lightens the skis and allows you to make a directional change easier, but not as efficient as moving across the skis. Also the up movement during the edge change will waste any momentum of the skis in their arc, we really want to avoid moving in ways that detract from the skis ability to continue to move forward.
Thanks for the look, keep up the good work,
post #3 of 14

Not all bad and a balanced position over your skis. Don't worry too much about the width of your stance at this point. Work on your transition. You extend up onto your new outside ski and then start ot edge it. This movement gets your CM moving the opposite direction from you are turning next and because of the late edge engagement, too much is happening toward the end of the turn.

Work on moving your CM across the skis in the transition. This will allow both skis to flatten at the same time and will build your edge progressivly as you balance on a solid platform early in the turn. It will also help the later portion of the turn b/c the turn is already developed.

The varbal cue is not up and onto your new outside but move your body across your skis and then down the hill and around with the skis.

Right off the bat, I see that I need to widen my stance.
A side note on this is that anytime you have an up movement in your skiing, your skis will come closer together, but as you try to get an effective grip to late in the end of the turn, your outside ski slides apart from the inside ski. To fix that, see above.

post #4 of 14
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Thanks for your input gr8turn & RonWhite! I do see that I need to work on getting the com over the skis more and less in the up direction. I didn't realize I was doing this and nobody has pointed it out to me before. Do you think my had position is o.k., because it looks a little wide to me in some frames of the video?

Thanks for the constructive criticism(sp?).
post #5 of 14
snowmiser, I embedded the video in your post for you (just use the video ID surrounded by [youtube] [/youtube].

Anyway, I rather like your hand position. I think they contribute to a pretty strong core. You may want to reach a bit more to get your body moving as has been mentioned above, but I wouldn't think a lot about your hand position right now.
post #6 of 14

Do you think my had position is o.k., because it looks a little wide to me in some frames of the video?
It looks ok to me. Your hand position is often a reflection of your overall balance through the turns. Don't get caught up in the details, work on the diagional movements across the skis out of the old turn and into the new turn and then moving in as the new turn develops.

post #7 of 14
Since you bring it up, your right hand during the apex of your right turn is really not setting you up to balance on the outside ski as it is at your side. You know what I've heard? The only reason to have your hand in your pocket is to find a Tip for your coach
Greg L
post #8 of 14
I'm no expert, but it Looks ok to me. I wouldn't worry about your stance width; I would just keep tipping the skis more once you get that turn started.

Once you stretch it out a bit, you find that by keeping your upper body facing down hill more and following the skis less (more counter) you can counter balance a bit more if you need to and you might not need to with big enough edge angles. Then you can work on more dynamic transitions.
Then again I'm no ski instructor either so take what I say with a grain of salt.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for fixing my video Steve! I had to have my 11 year old help me post my video. I'll figure it out one of these days! .

post #10 of 14
What is your aim?
As far as I can see you are not carving. Is that a goal of yours? Then I can see a lot of work. If it's doing "straight skis instructor turns" you are pretty much there. Quite flawless for large rotated turns actually. It looks like you will give more outer knee when needed and then the stance will automagically widen. So if your current turn is the goal then I wouldn't think much of the stance width either.
Personally I think you could have a lot more fun carving.

Oh, one minor thing. Not technique but something else.
You seem to hesitate between turns. Do you think alot about your next turn, or are you looking for a good spot to turn?
Do you recognize it or am I completely off base?
post #11 of 14
As she gains speed it does look like she is pivoting at the start of her turns but as she gains speed the turns gain a better shape.
It looks like the yip in her transition between turns is exaggerated by the lack of momentum because of the low slope angle.

The finish of her turn doesn't seem to flow into the next and that I what I think Ron is talking about . Maybe if she thinks about the finish of one turn ending with the beginning of the next she will get her edge change underway sooner at the top of her turns. A more progressive finish into the beginning of the next turn would make her smoother even at these speeds.

Another thing is that this is early , on cruddy snow and at slow speeds so any imperfections in her movements are magnified. It's a good learning tool.

It's always harder to have great technique at slow speeds.

Thanks for posting Anne . You know I'm kinda new at this and am just taking a shot for a deeper understanding.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks Carl & Gary!

These turns weren't carved turns. I will post that video as soon as I figure out how to! . I appreciate your suggestions though regarding the hesitation and am going to work on that.

post #13 of 14
Snowmiser, I wouldn't worry about your stance width. It will take care of itself as movements get more refined.

First I really like your posture over your skis. Nice movement over the center of your skis. Second, I like your range of motion in your joints as well.

How could we improve on this? First we could work on the rate and duration of the extension and flexion. Slow it down so that you are longest in the middle of your turn. this will require some mental discipline and practice. Secondly we need to apply the same rate and duration to your steering through use of leg rotation. You steer into your turn too quickly and then stop your leg steering early resulting in your upper body following your skis around through the turn. Try to get your leg steering to be continuous and deliberate through out the turn. The result of this should be that your are skiing into counter with your skis, feet and legs finishing farther across the hill than your pelvis and upper body. Your skis, feet, and legs should appear like windshield wipers, moving back and forth beneath a stable upper body.

The shoulder rotation and hand/arm position is an indicator of your leg rotation stalling out early in the turn. This is also where your slight stall between turns comes from IMO.

Some upper body discipline may help here too. Put some nice tension between your hands, arms, and core, (triangle of power one of my trainers calls it) as you ski and focus on your inside hand ending up somewhere in the vacinity of your ski tips as you turn. This may seem like the wrong end to work on and exageration at times, and it might very well be more counter than you need in every turn. Try it anyway though, to start reinforcing the separation between upper and lower body we need to develope at the hips. Even our low end demo's should exhibit some amount of counter that is developed at the hips.

Your pole swing should then reflect this amount of counter and not be so close to your outside ski tip, and the movements of the swing should help in directing your core more accurately into the next turn. Better flow from turn to turn.

Lastly, try to remember that we need the inside foot and leg to be active as well. Be mindfull here as well. Really, you have the moves, but they could be more effective through better use of duration, intensity, rate, and timing. Hope this makes sense to you, and isn't too much at once. Remember as well to choose one focus or movement at a time to work on, periodicly paying attention to how they relate to each other. Hopefully the end result will be more continuous movements, better separation between upper and lower body, resulting in more accurate and effective movements, and better flow. Let us know how things go for you.
post #14 of 14
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Thanks for the detailed comments RicB. I'm heading up to the hill now to work on things. I'll let you know how it goes!

Thanks Again!

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