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post #31 of 50
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Jay Peak comes to mind. If not, she'll get the wrong impression and every time you take her skiing, her priorities will be in the wrong place. Total emersion.
This made me chuckle. Serious or not, its just funny.

The total immersion thing might work if you are really careful to heed all the other good advice re: getting her a good lesson, keeping her warm, doing the cooking and planning and so on, etc. You have to make it hard for her to have a bad time. Killington would be a good choice if your girl is really into Jägerbombs, but I have no experience with that kind of chick. I think Lake Placid is a great choice, but were it me in the East I might consider someplace south facing and also around a nice town, say Bromley ferinstance.

I've done this deal twice. One time was a miserable failure. The next I got smart and followed most of the advice in this thread and did it at PCMR, which is not at all total immersion but worked well nonetheless. That one is still skiing, presumably with some other dude.
post #32 of 50
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Originally Posted by Paul Jones View Post
Whole lotta bad advice...

All of these places have too many distractions. She's there to ski. Take her to the wilderness. Early to rise, early to bed and no shopping.

Jay Peak comes to mind. If not, she'll get the wrong impression and every time you take her skiing, her priorities will be in the wrong place. Total emersion.
Guys and Gals, I think Ol' Paul Jones has a very good point here!!!! Next thing she'll be wanting ya to book a trip to Aspen, Vail, Tahoe and maybe a trip to the Alps!!!!!:

ps...I'm speaking with some experience here My wife and I skied Angelfire, NM for years....then I booked a "romantic ski trip" to Aspen...she no longer wants to ski NM! Only time I can go is on a guys' trip.......
post #33 of 50
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Originally Posted by ELVF50 View Post
She actually suggested going way out into the wilderness and renting a cabin. However, I'm thinking I'll take this slow and maybe head out to a cabin next time. As much as I would prefer that, I don't want to scare her and she already feels some pressure because of how much I love to ski (how having 5 pairs of skis and talking on some crazy internet forums gives a person that idea I'll never know).

So I'm likely going to opt for the golden arrow in lake placid with a decent room and comforts, at least this time.
Wait, so she expressed interest in not being pampered?

Have you ever thought that maybe not all women are into the glamour and the shopping and the spa treatments?

Let's put it this way. Once I had a boyfriend who I begged to take me ice climbing. I wanted to camp and ice climb in the Daks. I had experience doing everything but the ice climbing.

So what did he do? He took me to a ******* B&B for a weekend.

Guess what.... we're not dating any more.

All I'm saying is that she may appreciate you taking it easy on her, but then again, she may not.
post #34 of 50
Spring for the lesson...you'll both be happier, IMHO.
post #35 of 50
An absolute must (if you're going to Lake Placid) is to watch Miracle on DVD before going. I'm assuming you weren't around when the "miracle" happened. I was in Burlington (sophomore year at UVM) and we (12 close friends) watched it live on a 13" B&W TV in my tiny apartment. But I digress...you have to go to the rink and also the speed skating oval where Eric Heiden won 5 gold medals (that's all of them). I was lucky enough to watch him win the 1500m.

As noted, you have to eat at Jimmy's. There's also a Mexican restaurant heading out of town toward Saranac Lake that everyone claims is a must. I didn't eat there because its opening times are a little quirky. You'll have to run a search for Lake Placid threads because I don't remember the name...the only thing I see on Google is Luna Loca, but not sure if that's it.
post #36 of 50
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Originally Posted by ELVF50 View Post
She actually suggested going way out into the wilderness and renting a cabin. However, I'm thinking I'll take this slow and maybe head out to a cabin next time. As much as I would prefer that, I don't want to scare her and she already feels some pressure because of how much I love to ski (how having 5 pairs of skis and talking on some crazy internet forums gives a person that idea I'll never know).

So I'm likely going to opt for the golden arrow in lake placid with a decent room and comforts, at least this time.
Once she can ski a little bit think about a yurt trip. Nice and rustic and depending on where you go the skiing doesn't have to be rowdy or dangerous. Do it on randanee gear and it will be like the best powder skiing at a resort, without the people and with an exilarating hike.
post #37 of 50
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Originally Posted by tetonpwdrjunkie View Post
Once she can ski a little bit think about a yurt trip. Nice and rustic...
These don't look all that "rustic!"
http://www.yurtski.com/yurt_night%20(2).jpg
or

http://www.aceguru.com/ITRC/yurt1.jpg

http://www.barthphoto.com/yurt.JPG

http://www.rainorsfarm.co.uk/Fully-f...d-Yurt-031.jpg
post #38 of 50
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Originally Posted by Kimmyt View Post
So what did he do? He took me to a ******* B&B for a weekend.
I've heard of this thing called "listening", though I must admit I'm not very good at it.
post #39 of 50
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Originally Posted by MarkXS View Post
Killington if the GF is a party girl and likes the bar scene - but has no interest in romantic quaint Vermont - because quaint it ain't. Okemo or Mt. Snow would be better VT destinations for romantic atmosphere in the nearby towns, and good beginner skiing.

Mt. Snow's lesson package worked great on the wife several years ago. Next think I know, she has us moving to Colorado.
He forgot to mention that after taking "the wife" on her first ski trip to Killington, she refused to go skiing for 12 years. Although Killington is located in Vermont, it bares an uncanny resemblance to Newark New Jersey. Even smells like it, from all the post alcohol binge puking.

In contrast, Bretton Woods is beautiful, romantic and has plenty of novice terrain.
post #40 of 50
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
Although Killington is located in Vermont, it bares an uncanny resemblance to Newark New Jersey. Even smells like it, from all the post alcohol binge puking.
LOL. Plus this year no one is happy with the management. I've gotten a couple days a year in there for years, but I think the last time I stopped somewhere on the access road or entered a building other than KBL was in the 90's.
post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by Lisamarie View Post
... it bares an uncanny resemblance to Newark New Jersey. Even smells like it, from all the post alcohol binge puking.
And she didn't like it:
post #42 of 50
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Originally Posted by DeadMoney View Post
I can't comment of where to go. I have zero experience with eastern area. The rest however . . .

Take a long look and set up your priorities. Number one, I'm guessing, is for it to be a great time for your girlfriend. And she is a beginner.

If there is any way to beg borrow or steal the funds to do ski in / ski out, do it! Keeping in mind that if she wants to "take a break" the ski day could easily be over. Save some $$s by bring groceries and preparing meals (btw, you plan to do the shopping, cooking and clean up, and you will get help. If you expect help . . . ). If the lodging is nice, with some amenities, you may be released for a run or three while she enjoys a glass of wine by the fire. Be back BEFORE you said you would.

I'm another vote for GET HER A LESSON. It's not that you can't teach her. It's just that there are a number of positives and few negatives to this approach vs. a number of negatives and few positives to the teach her yourself approach. She gets professional instruction. You get part of a day to rip it up (and if she knows you are a passionate skier, this removes any guilt that her beginner status constricted your enjoyment). You will get to see a step change in here ability and can show your amazement. If the lesson goes extremely well, meaning she progressed nicely and had a blast, bust out the plastic and give her the option of another lesson the next day. If you manage two good lessons and 3-4 days of skiing, she comes away from the weekend a "skier".

I'll also add another vote for the foot massage.

Another benefit of on hill lodging. None of us are fond of long walks in ski boots, beginner hate it.

I used a lot of this with my wife more than 25 years ago. She was a never ever skier. Because of a careful, thoughtful, romantic introduction, skiing has been a passion we can share.
Excellent advice. To which I would only add: Make this trip about her. Choose a resort with terrain that won't threaten a beginner, has nice restaurants (unless you can cook) and maybe has something to do (read: shopping) away from the slopes, in case there is a day when she does not want to ski. Stowe, Okemo, etc. might be a good choice. Right now upper VT is off to the best start in years, so check it out. And to repeat others: Yield not to the temptation to try to teach your s/o to ski. Yield not to the temptation to take her to the summit before she is ready, regardless of the "gentle green" run from the top. Break down for the ski in/ski out rental because she will not have to carry her skis to a parking lot or shuttle bus. Carrying ski gear is something beginners need time to get used to. (Think of a giant letter X with legs). Good luck and please let us know how it works out.
post #43 of 50
Oh, and I forgot: If you really, really want to be a hero, book her a massage at a local spa for when she's sore. This could be worth breaking out the plastic for, especially if it is a surprise.
post #44 of 50
I can understand the thinking of getting her a lesson, but a half day?? She will think you have ditched her to go ski yourself.

This weekend, as you said, is about her, and about the both of you. If you are patient and are confident about teaching her the basics, I would vote for staying with her than dumping her with some random group (or even worse... one on one with some young hottie instructor). If she enjoys herself and wants to learn more, that is the time for learning from the pros rather than picking up your bad habits.
post #45 of 50
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Originally Posted by ELVF50 View Post
She actually suggested going way out into the wilderness and renting a cabin. However, I'm thinking I'll take this slow and maybe head out to a cabin next time. As much as I would prefer that, I don't want to scare her and she already feels some pressure because of how much I love to ski (how having 5 pairs of skis and talking on some crazy internet forums gives a person that idea I'll never know).

So I'm likely going to opt for the golden arrow in lake placid with a decent room and comforts, at least this time.
Maybe she needs to feel the stoke of the addiction. Introduce her to Ski Diva. Make no mistake Epic is my forum home, but SkiDiva has been a great resource for women skiers, by women skiers, and a great help to guys who want to get their SO involved.
Sorry ELVF, you can't join, but she's gonna love it!
Ski Diva Forums
post #46 of 50
Many good suggestions but the most important advice is to make it all about her - NOT YOU !!!!! If you are renting equipment for her, I would go to a local shop on a weekday such as Ski Company as they will spend more time in boot choice / proper fit (VERY IMPORTENT) as well as making sure she has equipment appropriate for her skills. At Ski Company, Charlie Ippolito is great for helping a beginning woman skier with equipment. A half day lesson on one of the days will allow her some "not boyfriend pressured instruction" as well as giving you some time to tear it up. Whiteface has an excellent town, BUT, my nickname for it is ICEface often with beginner/intermediate/expert unfriendly conditions. Mt.Snow or Okemo have a better trail choice and Killington has both excellent beginner skiing and great nightlife. Mt.Tremblant has a "European" style town but is a bit pricey and can be extremely cold. If you choose Killington, a good bed & breakfast is the Kokopelli Inn. They are 10 minutes from the mountain, reasonably priced and have a hottub. Their web site is: http://www.kokopelliinnspa.com
Where ever you choose, check their web site for lift ticket deals, ski lessons, etc. Many have beginner lesson packages offered at a discount. If you choose Killington another option is staying in the ski house I am part of. It is located across the street from the Kokopelli and guests can stay for $35/night. If interested, PM me for more info, but I would recommend a B&B for a more romatic setting - ESPECIALLY for your first ski trip together !!!!

Good Luck & Good Snow - Falcon_O aka Charlie
post #47 of 50

Sutton

About 1/2 hour north of Jay Peak is Mont Sutton. Super quaint with great snow and slopeside accomodations. Good Quebecois food and ambience. Not Expensive. It will feel like you are in Europe with all the French speaking. Tres cool without the Tremblant attitude. A real gem of a mountain. Bring the Champagne from home, a little less expensive.
post #48 of 50
Whatever you do, take her someplace where it's not going to snow. If it starts dumping, you're gonna want to ditch her!
post #49 of 50

First ski trip with girlfriend

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Originally Posted by falcon_o View Post
Many good suggestions but the most important advice is to make it all about her - NOT YOU !!!!!

Excellent advice. I was once the girlfriend in this scenario. My then boyfriend made sure I was very well equipped (amazing what a difference the right clothing can make!) and set me up with a lesson. I was very lucky that the pro was (is?) a great teacher and I had a fun group of people to ski/learn with. In that lesson, I got an inkling of the sensations that come with skiing and I wanted to pursue it. I went out of my way to arrange to ski and have been doing so ever since.

I think a lesson is a vital component in your plan. A pro will know what she needs to learn and how to best explain it to her. If you have the ability to pick a pro that you know is a great teacher, that would help (I got lucky...there are a lot of good teachers and then there are great ones!). Try to ensure that she has good equipment and that the ski area has good beginner terrain.

If you can take her to a resort that is beautiful, that would add to the overall experience. If you focus on her and do the cooking, etc., she will recognize what you are doing, will help and very much appreciate it! Offer her your support and encouragement and maybe try to describe what it's like to ski.....the sense of freedom, harmony, peace, beauty.....:

I would also highly recommend The Ski Diva forum....a great goup of very highly enthusiastic women skiers.

Best of luck. She sounds pretty open and I think she has an idea of how you feel about skiing. Give her all the tools and support for success, but let her develop on her own so that she can see if wants to ski for herself. Because if she decides that she is a "skier", look out she may plan more ski days than you could imagine...!!!!!
post #50 of 50
I have been in this scenario.

I would suggest Killington or Whiteface, both have an abundance of things to do other than skiing or after skiing. Both locations have a broad spectrum of accommodations, from $ to $$$$$. Both are large and have a lot of terrain.

Now with getting her on the mountain, as others have suggested you want to be an enabler, you want to make this thing as easy and comfortable as possible for her. I don’t know if she is outfitted or not but a major component in all of this is that she remains dry and comfortable, if she is not it does not matter if money started to fall out of the sky she will be less than happy and probably not willing to ski again.

Now I realize outfitting a person to ski for the first time seems like quite a costly investment, but you can buy some very affordable gear that she can get by on for this first foray into alpine sports, big box stores like Sports Authority, Modells, and many non-ski discount stores carry real ski gear for up to 70% off from specialty shops.

You might want to rent and or lease your gear (skis and boots) ahead of time from a local shop, the gear will probably be newer, less used, and in better shape, and she will be able to get fitted in a more comfortable environment and without the pressure of having to hurry up and not waste a ski day at the base lodge putting on some clammy packed out boots. Lastly a ski lesson, you can never have too many. Good luck!
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