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post #31 of 50
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Well if you really want to...get "back to basics and limitations", if you ride fixed, maybe you would like telemark.
that's actually exactly what i've been thinking. my brother is the best skier in the family (used to work ski patrol at mammoth) and after a while he kind of got bored so he started telemark and fell in love with it.

as far as all the posts about not knowing what i'm missing, i do know what i'm missing. there's nothing i love more than carving tight turn and getting the whole side of my body on the mountain but i also have a great time pushing the straight skis and i can get similar sensations. i rarely go on more than 2 ski trips a year so the fact that my skis are free is great plus they have a sentimental value because they were my dads. every time i look down i remember my dad skiing on them with the most beautiful old school form. so elegant. so fast.
post #32 of 50
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that's actually exactly what i've been thinking. my brother is the best skier in the family (used to work ski patrol at mammoth) and after a while he kind of got bored so he started telemark and fell in love with it.

as far as all the posts about not knowing what i'm missing, i do know what i'm missing. there's nothing i love more than carving tight turn and getting the whole side of my body on the mountain but i also have a great time pushing the straight skis and i can get similar sensations. i rarely go on more than 2 ski trips a year so the fact that my skis are free is great plus they have a sentimental value because they were my dads. every time i look down i remember my dad skiing on them with the most beautiful old school form. so elegant. so fast.
That's beautiful. I knew from your first post about ditching the poles and no longer envy of snowboarders that you were carving. I understand that you can get similar sensations from the P9s but there are limitations as you implied with your comparison to riding fixed gear. My friend rode his dad's straight Elans for a while after his father could no longer ride them.
post #33 of 50
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
What do you mean by "better"? Is a Bianchi road bike with Campy ten speed gruppo better than a Bianchi Pista? What is better for you might not be better for some one else.
easy to stay on edge, less likely to boot out, and less likely to plow under softer snow. Give the him something like head IM103 supermojo and I bet he can ski faster,harder,longer, in more control than a 205 straight ski. so unless you like to work more for less, than I would lose the straight skis.

Now if skiing slower, with more skidded turns, with a fear of hitting your boots in chopped snow is 'better" than by all means by your old long straight skis and get spanked by anyone worth their salt.

the sidecut of the skis 80s and early 90s still exist except they have widen the platform quite a bit. the trends going on, are because of ease of use and better performance it has nothing to do with anything else.

If someone where to sell a 205cm skinny straight ski, what do you think the market would be for that? I mean if the new stuff wasnt any better I am sure some independent ski maker would be making some 205 straight SL skis.
post #34 of 50
Whatever is easier for you, Josh. Yeah, believe it or not some of us like to "work more for less" except it's not less if the additional effort reaps bigger rewards. We work more for more.
post #35 of 50
arpod,

Looks like a whole passel of fish on the line!!!

Reel 'em in.
post #36 of 50
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Is a Bianchi road bike with Campy ten speed gruppo better than a Bianchi Pista?
YES! As long as it's at least a Chorus gruppo...

I leave the fixies to the guys who are still riding here in MN. No hardcore here.
post #37 of 50
I've got some really nice old school Volkls in my garage that I will sell you cheap.
post #38 of 50
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
YES! As long as it's at least a Chorus gruppo...

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My old school Super Record equiped bike shifts just fine through it's 6 speed freewheel. Is new school better than old school? I am not always so sure....
post #39 of 50
Tug .... tug ..... the bobber on the line goes under ..

Tug .... tug ..... one mo' big tug and he's gonna yank real hard and he gonna get the hook right in his ear!

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Anyone want a pair of Elan GS 210s? Never been skied. Look Killy bindings.
post #41 of 50
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
YES! As long as it's at least a Chorus gruppo...

I leave the fixies to the guys who are still riding here in MN. No hardcore here.
I'd rather have a roadie than a fixie also, but the point is what is better for one person might not be better for another.
post #42 of 50
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Originally Posted by garysol1 View Post
My old school Super Record equiped bike shifts just fine through it's 6 speed freewheel. Is new school better than old school? I am not always so sure....
I've never ridden either, but Super Record sounds better than Chorus to me. Indexed shifting, brifters, and ten speed cogset are nice though. What you prefer is up to you.
post #43 of 50
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Anyone want a pair of Elan GS 210s? Never been skied. Look Killy bindings.
Would you want to sell them if they were the last skis your father used? My mom sold dad's Harts, actually probably gave them away. I wish I had them. Open your heart to skiing.
post #44 of 50
Arpod...I think people either get it or they don't. All sorts of pasttimes have people looking for some nostalgia, some missing soul that perhaps consumerism has blunted. I surf and have a shortboard which is light, agile, and insanely manoeuvrable. I also have longboards which I have to really make an effort to turn well. Longboards are simply a different style of surfing. No less legitimate, just different. One slashes, one glides.

You may be the leading edge of a retro skinny ski revival Arpod.
Nice work man. Keep styling.

I'm just ducking up to the wardrobe to pull out my 200cm PRE Premier Racing SL's - pale blue with a dayglo pink graphic. The problem is I fear my tired old body has lost the technique and agility needed to ski them well.
post #45 of 50
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post
arpod,

Looks like a whole passel of fish on the line!!!

Reel 'em in.
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Tug .... tug ..... the bobber on the line goes under ..

Tug .... tug ..... one mo' big tug and he's gonna yank real hard and he gonna get the hook right in his ear!

:

Meanwhile, TC sniffs bait and swims away>>>>>>>>>>>>>






post #46 of 50
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post

Meanwhile, TC sniffs bait and swims away>>>>>>>>>>>>>






Who is the clown fish?

I remember getting on my first pair of 'shaped' skis. Now I think they are called 'hybrids'. I made about 3 turns, stopped, and took the skis off because I thought I was catching an edge. "Why do these darn things keep stopping?" Is what I was thinking.

I do think modern shaped skis make it easier, require less force, to turn. But they were definately an adjustment from straight ski turns.
post #47 of 50
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
I've never ridden either, but Super Record sounds better than Chorus to me. Indexed shifting, brifters, and ten speed cogset are nice though. What you prefer is up to you.
Had that at one point in the mid-90's. My "retro bike"!! I had it on a Trek Pro Series Reynolds 531 bike. Sweet ride!
post #48 of 50

Red Sleds

Racers: are modern Super G and Downhill racing skis quite straight? If so, does riding a ski like the Atomic bionic RS, resemble riding a current super G ski? I find them (Red Sled-195cm) quite good in some respects, stability, fast, edge hold, power.

someone spoke of "how far over they are edged" I put them way over to do a
GS turn. What is that about, in terms of that question? edge them to get their designed carve? flatter ski, tail slide, smaller radius turn?
post #49 of 50
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Originally Posted by davluri View Post
Racers: are modern Super G and Downhill racing skis quite straight? If so, does riding a ski like the Atomic bionic RS, resemble riding a current super G ski?
No. Older race skis were at times a 70m+ turning radius. Today speed skis are anywhere from 33m (SG) to 50m (DH). This season SG skis seem to be around 40m and DH skis seem to be around 50m. My SG skis that are a few seasons old are 33m. Turn radius does not tell the whole story either because flex patterns have been refined significantly to allow for much cleaner carving.

Later

Greg
post #50 of 50
I have a pair of P9 207's and the best thing about them in today's world is they are easy to spot in the ski racks and no worry's about having them stolen...they are reto and cool looking I will agree about that.
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