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Freestyle tricks with race skis?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
Hey guys, this is the situation: I have been skiing for many years and i am somewhere around the upper intermediate/advanced skill range. I own a pair of Atomic race skis. i dont remember the model.. they may be GS.. Is it possible for me to start trying (carefully) jumps and beginner freestyle tricks. Basically i want to try something new, by no means will i become a freestyle skiier but if at the end of my run, i have an option to take a ramp for a jump and maybe eventually advance to simple tricks, is this possible with Atomic GS's or will the race skis not allow me to safely and properly execute jumps and tricks?
Thanks alot.
post #2 of 23
yes its fine. They won't be the best and don't hit rails if you still want to race on them. Landing switch is out too (you will def hook a tail) although taking off switch may be possible
post #3 of 23
I bring my race kids into the park now & then to mix things up, keeping to the pipes & small/mid size jumps. Great versatility training, and the kids enjoy it a lot. Since we don't want our race gear destroyed, we also follow Phil's advice and stay off any "non-snow" features (rails, tables, boxes...).
post #4 of 23
yes, you can attempt tricks with your racing skis. However, it's not going to be easy especially if you have racing plates making your skis much heavier. Start off by just going for straight air untill you feel comfortable and balanced in the air.
post #5 of 23
Under no conditions should you try to hit any freestyle features with race skis. You will be creating a huge hazard to yourself, and possibly others, and will destroy your equipment (that would be a best case scenario). What you are contemplating is extremely foolish, is in violation of part 4(b) and 5(d) of the skiers' responsibility code, and may result in suspension of your season pass.
Buy a clue, gaper.
post #6 of 23
I have the dilemna of being a freestyle coach that loves race skis. Of course, I don't coach on race skis, but I love to ski them when I am not coaching.

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Originally Posted by PhilT View Post
yes its fine. They won't be the best and don't hit rails if you still want to race on them. Landing switch is out too (you will def hook a tail) although taking off switch may be possible
If you ever decide you want to hit rails, you are best off getting some twins. Take a lesson and learn to ride flat rails keeping your skis flat. When you can do that, you will be able to go back to your race skis and not screw them up on rails. Keeping your race skis flat on flat rails will do no damage to them. If you cannot keep them flat or venture onto rails with pitch changes, you will dull the edges and/or screw up your bases.

Landing switch is another thing best learned on twins, but once you can do it, you should be able to do it on race skis as well. There certainly are a lot of people who learned to ski switch without twins. There are also a lot of people who learned to land switch without twins. The exception to that rule is when the snow gets deep - then you are asking for trouble. Skiing and landing switch on race skis is not really that big of a deal on groomers.

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Originally Posted by BriKalSki View Post
yes, you can attempt tricks with your racing skis. However, it's not going to be easy especially if you have racing plates making your skis much heavier.
This is an understatement. The weight thing really is an issue for spins.
post #7 of 23
You can get used(maybe even new) twins w/ bindings for under $300, I say save the race skis.
post #8 of 23
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Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir View Post
Under no conditions should you try to hit any freestyle features with race skis. You will be creating a huge hazard to yourself, and possibly others, and will destroy your equipment (that would be a best case scenario). What you are contemplating is extremely foolish, is in violation of part 4(b) and 5(d) of the skiers' responsibility code, and may result in suspension of your season pass.
Buy a clue, gaper.

You sir are an idiot.

There is no issue with learning the park on race skis. Back in the day before 'park' skis that how we all learned it!
There is no violation of the skier code and it does not endanger anyone.
post #9 of 23
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Originally Posted by Gripen View Post
You sir are an idiot.

There is no issue with learning the park on race skis. Back in the day before 'park' skis that how we all learned it!
There is no violation of the skier code and it does not endanger anyone.
Find out where this guy skis, and stay away. Imminent danger to all!!
post #10 of 23
a lot of today's twintips are built using the same sandwich construction as race skis (minus the metal) and the same high-quality sintered bases to ensure the guys who are going huge can easily achieve the speeds they need. Using race skis in the park might look funny, but it won't put anyone but yourself in danger- and that will be more due to the comparatively massive amount of lift on race skis than to anything else.
post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir View Post
Find out where this guy skis, and stay away.
That would be a blessing, please everyone STAY AWAY!!!
post #12 of 23
One name: Glen Plake
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
One name: Glen Plake
Lol, I was going to mention him but then I got cold feet because I'm just a newb.

If he can do it, so can you!
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by saudan's boudoir View Post
Under no conditions should you try to hit any freestyle features with race skis. You will be creating a huge hazard to yourself, and possibly others, and will destroy your equipment (that would be a best case scenario). What you are contemplating is extremely foolish, is in violation of part 4(b) and 5(d) of the skiers' responsibility code, and may result in suspension of your season pass.
Buy a clue, gaper.
6/10 bumped up to a 7/10 for the quality bite it got.
post #15 of 23
i dont have race skis or twins but i hit up the grom parks to switch things up i might do some little jumps and maybe a flat box thats it
post #16 of 23
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Originally Posted by benmasters View Post
i dont have race skis or twins but i hit up the grom parks to switch things up i might do some little jumps and maybe a flat box thats it
That's what you got for your first posting here!?! Let's try to keep up the quality a little bit, shall we? Rookie mistake? Let's hope so.

Boy do I miss grammar, punctuation, and statements made with reason and purpose
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post #17 of 23
Where SL skis used to be great bump skis, todays generation of SL's are one trick ponies. There is no "real" danger to anyone, but if you are going to use a tool, use the right tool or at least as close to the right tool as possible. There are few worse choice you can make than taking a SL ski in a park to do tricks.
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post #19 of 23

GS skis

I'd think twice if they are GS skis - The tips don't flex as much as softer skis and when you hit the lip of a rail they might kick sideways rather than flexing and absorbing the bump.
post #20 of 23
The threadstarter is talking about simple beginners jumps!
When you consider that in GS competition, useally at great speeds, jumps are pretty normal, a simple beginnersjump won't be a problem at all!
It's just fun, use some (simple) features on the slope to get some air and gradually progres in airtime I would say!
Enjoy!
post #21 of 23
He is also not talking about real race stock skis -- doesn't know the name of them (thinks they may be GS), says he is intermediate/advanced. This isn't a racer looking to take their race stock skis into the park and hit huge jumps. This is an intermediate all around skier with a race-like carving ski wanting to try to park but not sure if they need twin tip parks skis.

I see no problem with that starting to play in the park on a recreational Atomic "maybe GS" ski. Many kids are in on race skis too -- issue there is potential damage to the skis and possibly too high of DINS for the park but that isn't what we are talking about here.
post #22 of 23
For straight airs race skis might be ok, but if you try to spin, the unbalanced weight will throw you right off axis.
post #23 of 23

Maybe GS

An Atomic 920 shouldn't be a problem in the park, but I just remember a bunch of years ago hitting a kicker in my Dynastar 205 GS skis (that gave me no problem in my recreational K2s) and I was flying sideways and landed so hard I was walking funny for a couple of weeks.

GS racers get a lot of air going off lips and headwalls, but not kickers or jumps like you see in parks.
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