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HEAD 2005 C140 skis

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...cm-p-2365.html
anyone skiied this? is it better than a crappy rental ski?

i ski blues, blacks, with speed, and make powerful turns. is this ski to cheap/soft?

i want a ski so that i dont have to rent each time, (im planning on skiing 40 days this year) but my budget right now doesnt allow for me to spend $1200-$1500 on a whole set of gear.

my idea was to splurge on a really good pair of boots, get them fit to my foot, so that they are comfy and dependable for years to come, and then next year get the ac40s demos, or a comperable ski.

can this ski make it through one year? thats all i need out of it.
post #2 of 15
Where do you ski? How much do you weigh? What kind of terrain?

Even without answers, if you're considering this kind of a carving ski and ski fast on blues and blacks I'd suggest spending a little more at levelnine and getting the IM70 (http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...cm-p-2392.html) or I.XRC1100 (http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...cm-p-2288.html)

Over a 40 day season the extra $80 or so to get into one of these skis would be worth it in my view. I'd think either of these would be more fun to begin with, have more "top end", hold up longer, and have more resale value or "quiver" value at the end of the season.

That said, I've never skied any of these, just going on reviews and comments here on epicski, and also observing other skiers on different equipment. And what I see at ski shops - the C140 and similar "C" series skis seem to be entry level at big chains like Princeton. I'm sure it's OK, but just a little bit more could get you into something that's likely more than OK.
post #3 of 15
Just happened to have these skis (2005 Head C140) handy (got them for nothing from a beginner friend who decided to give up skiing) and set them up as a rock skis for my wife who is very strong skier. Her comment after a day of skiing on them on man-made show last weekend in Tahoe - "I feel like I'm skiing on the boots." No stiffnes in tip and tail whatsoever....

Thus, if you are looking to "ski blues, blacks, with speed, and make powerful turns" you better look some where else.

Cheers,

cfr
post #4 of 15
Thread Starter 
thanks alot guys. anyone else? May I redirect this post to pay more attention to the Monster i.M 70 Skis here http://www.levelninesports.com/head-...cm-p-2392.html

they look more fit for my skiing. side note: I am 5'11, 195, i ski at sunday river, sugarloaf, and two west trips per year.
post #5 of 15
Go with either of the skis that ts01 recommended - the i.M70 or the XRC1100. Both pretty good skis, and at those prices it's hard to beat. If you want better carving performance and at speed, go with the XRC, if you're more concerned about having a little more versatility, go with the iM70.
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Go on ebay look for a Head iC300, they went got over $1k, you can have them for $200 or less now, new old stock (02-03?). I have them, great ski. They have the chip and intelligence fibers. Was the top of the line Head ski.
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Go on ebay look for a Head iC300, they went got over $1k, you can have them for $200 or less now, new old stock (02-03?). I have them, great ski. They have the chip and intelligence fibers. Was the top of the line Head ski.
Can I jump into this thread and ask more about the iC300s? I just bought a pair, and subject to finding bindings I want to know if I should keep them. Here's some basics about me: intermediate male skier, 5'6, 170kg, moderate speed, prefer groomed runs, hate skis that don't perform on ice

The skis I bought are 163cm. I like skis that are stable, but for my height and weight that usually means stepping up to 170s. The iC300s seems a lot less flexible than others, so I am guessing that they will help with stability. My concern is that I am underestimating the stiffness or level of this ski. In another thread CanuckInstructor (I think) suggested that the iC300 is too much ski for an intermediate. I am not the most technical of skiers and would like to know 1) what the main problems I might experience are, 2) what I would need to learn to grow into this ski. I haven't hit the slopes for 3 years, and before that I was using a set of Crossmax 7 @ 160cm.

I don't have more than $400 canadian to buy a set of skis, and saw the older Heads as an opportunity to get a higher level of ski. I can't afford to replace them for a few years so was hoping that they were a good compromise. I can return them and haven't found the correct bindings yet.
post #8 of 15
The iC300 are carver skis designed to perform exceptionally well on ice and to go fast. The independent tests performed at the time of its release verified that. It is intended for strong intermediate to expert skiers. The skis have the chip (first Head skis to have them) so chatter is kept down to a minimum. I too was warned about them when I made my purchase, and admittedly it was more ski than I should have bought at the time, but I planned on progressing rapidly (based on how quickly I was relearning to ski) and did not want to buy new skis in a year or two. They are stiff skis, I would say they feel almost as stiff as my race stock GS skis, so these skis are no joke. Just don't try to ski powder with them...they are narrow and submarine all over the place.

The problems you might encounter are that in order to arc the ski you need to be on top of your form, and make powerful turns. Can you get away with less than perfect form, sure, but to use these skis to their potential you have to ski fast. Since they are upper ability level skis, you might start bad habits in your form to make them work as opposed to getting on some softer skis and getting your technique down. But hey who am I to judge, I did the same thing you are doing and while I'm no Olympian, I can hold my own.

Oh by the way, the bindings that work well with those skis are the Tyrolia LD12 railflex (not railflex 2).
post #9 of 15
I never have troubles at lower speeds, but I have found difficulty with control at higher speeds. If that was because of the skis, then I guess the iC300 are a good idea. "If", it's more likely to be my lack of technique

Chatter has always been a problem for me - I have been told that my weight is a little high for 160cm skis (I said 170kgs, I actually meant 170lbs though). 170cm skis seem a little to long for my height and not that much better on the chatter. I usually find it easy to get my weight onto the ski to arc them (if I understand what you mean by "arc" correctly), but you do have me a little worried. I'll think about it a little more.

Thanks for the binding hint. If I keep the skis then I will look out for those. I am guessing that they are the Railflex 1 type - SportChek suggested that they had to be "SuperRailFlex" bindings only.
post #10 of 15
You got me there, I am not sure if there is a difference between the Railflex and SuperRailflex. The iC300 came at a max length of 177cm, so the 160 might suit you.
post #11 of 15
For bindings try levelninesports.com - they sell a ton of Head skis / Tyrolia bindings, lots of new old stock (discounted) items. Should be able to set you up with the right binding / right price. (Call their contact no.)
post #12 of 15
Thanks for you help and advice. I have decided that I am better off getting a more intermediate ski. Any advice on what to look at?
post #13 of 15
Scmentz

The c140 is an intermediate ski most typically sold in a package for a teen skier. For an adult male 5'11" 195lbs this ski is too soft. At least the iC160/iC260 or as suggested Monster M70 or M72 would be a nice ski for you. Also consider XRC line. The 1100/1200 is a stiff ski and on a better price the iC180/iC280/XRC800 is a nice ski although a bit softer. I weigh more than you and am taller. I regularly ski on the XRC800 and befoe that iC180/280 (all three basically same ski) but only in 163cm. In longer lengths I find it is too soft for me. Look also for skis simply called XRC as these later becme the 1100 and then the 1200.

Col

The iC300 has not been in the line since prior to 2004/05. Was a very high end ski but the one time I tried a pair I found they felt a bit odd compared to the othe Head skis. The shape of the skis is a bit different and this ski was designed for bigger mountain cruising I believe. It was basically replaced with the XRC1400 chip ski which is still in the line up and I like much more.

Yopu should still be able to find bindings for the iC300 from your local ski shop with Head products as they can find the right binding and order thru the rep. Also the Railflex plate can be removed and replaced with whatever plate you want if you find a different binding system. The plates and rails are screwed to the ski in the same manner as bindings.

Hope this answers some questions.

Regards

Mike Hoyt
Local on hill head Rep
Certified on Tyrolia bindings
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by ts01 View Post
For bindings try levelninesports.com - they sell a ton of Head skis / Tyrolia bindings, lots of new old stock (discounted) items. Should be able to set you up with the right binding / right price. (Call their contact no.)
Bit of a threadjack, but would anyone in the US be willing to order a set of LD12 Railflex 2 bindings from LevelNine and send them on to me in Norway? Even with the shipping I reckon it should still be way cheaper than a new set of RFD12s over here.

I can PayPal the cost of the bindings and the full cost of shipping. Only condition is that the package is marked as a gift, so the Norwegian customs guys don't have a field day with me (25% sales tax on the price of goods including shipping, plus a handling charge!).
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Bit of a threadjack, but would anyone in the US be willing to order a set of LD12 Railflex 2 bindings from LevelNine and send them on to me in Norway? Even with the shipping I reckon it should still be way cheaper than a new set of RFD12s over here.
Forget this, I persuaded a victim in Seattle to do this for me
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