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Any thoughts on this early season form?

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in b/w sl runs last weekend, have fun.............. & thankx
post #2 of 29
Given that it's a static shot and early season, looks rippin' to me! What do you think?
post #3 of 29

Good.

Dropping inside hand a smidge. Little more counter?

Stick out your tongue. Makes you go faster.

Not bad for early tracks!
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The question to answer first: what were you thinking about doing at the time this shot was taken? What aspects of your skiing would you like bears to consider in responding to this thread?
post #5 of 29
I have been wondering wTF you have been, but now I know, you were skiing you bum.
post #6 of 29
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The question to answer first: what were you thinking about doing at the time this shot was taken? What aspects of your skiing would you like bears to consider in responding to this thread?
My coach has me thinking about being more forward, dorsiflexion & driving the hands.

I was just b/w SL runs & the pic was taken w/o my knowing. I was focused on balanced feet & shovel pressurization.

I was just interested in the thoughts of the masses
post #7 of 29
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I have been wondering wTF you have been, but now I know, you were skiing you bum.
Been busy; plus setting up/running a couple small camps. Come train w/ me!
post #8 of 29
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My coach has me thinking about being more forward, dorsiflexion & driving the hands.

I was just b/w SL runs & the pic was taken w/o my knowing. I was focused on balanced feet & shovel pressurization.

I was just interested in the thoughts of the masses
Nice counter, but you could definitely be driving that old inside hand better. That's going to cause wash at the end of the turn if you're not careful... It'll also help you have a more solid upper body against which to move, and that would likely help you keep your feet balanced and pressure on that shovel.

Hope that gives you something worth considering...
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Good shot.
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Hey, DD! Nice to see you here...
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Hey, DD! Nice to see you here...
Nice to be seen.

It's finals week, I'm looking for alternatives to doing my paper. Haven't had a whole lot of time to keep up here this semester. It has paid off though.
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Nice to be seen.

It's finals week, I'm looking for alternatives to doing my paper. Haven't had a whole lot of time to keep up here this semester. It has paid off though.


Gotta get ahead for spring break, after all... :
post #13 of 29
its only a still but as other have said...

alittle more counter, a little less banking.

its still very possiable to carve clean turns as your pictured but the above advice will make those carved turns tighter and grippier.
post #14 of 29
This picture does not give any indication of Irips skiing... like his name....he rips on snow. period.
post #15 of 29
iriponsnow,

Really nice pic. The one on the website before this is also nice. You look strong, stable and balanced. I think you might be on the skiers right toward the bottom of double dipper where down draft comes into it, which has a funny fall line so that is why some are saying that you are tipped in a little, but knowing the terrain, you look very level to the horizon to me.

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I was focused on balanced feet & shovel pressurization.

Looks good to me, think of feeling the whole foot evenly as you flex your ankles.

RW
post #16 of 29
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I think that I'm on "chute" & the hill does fall away quite a bit.

Thanks for all the input, I'm always interested in what folks are thinking.
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caught again on the same weird fall away..........this time on 191's
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I see one thing totally wrong here..........your not smiling.
Otherwise nice.
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caught again on the same weird fall away..........this time on 191's
Probably not worth the 2 cents, but....
Looks like you lost more speed in the turn than you were expecting to; it just looks to me like that fore aft position would be ok if balanced by more sideways turning forces. Looks like that resulted in you using a little too much front of inside ski. Could be due to the uphill bit not adjusted for (a little more retraction of inside leg required) or perhaps snow resisting a bit more than thought (gets worse with the extra load).
post #20 of 29
All I see is that you really do seem to rip on snow.

Looks pretty good from my little corner.
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Probably not worth the 2 cents, but....
Looks like you lost more speed in the turn than you were expecting to;
yeah.........this is a strange cut over that falls off to skier's left & then goes up hill @ the same time a guy hops out into the trail & all but tackles you to get a pic.

the only thing odder is that i always forget until i'm playing chicken w/ a photog
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Try experimenting--
Less (no) big toe pressure
Closer stance
Lighter on the inside foot.
Let our inside knee drop toward the snow.
Let your hips drop toward the snow.
Pull your inside foot back continuously as you push the inside hip forward.
Bring the inside shoulder higher & forward; outside shoulder lower & back.
Something like Benni Raich


You'll have more angulation just balancing with the closer, lighter inside foot. You'll have your skis more on edge while you have less push trying to push the outside ski out of its carve. It's kind'a hard to see in these pics, but if the inside ski is too far forward it's hard to edge as well as tending to put one's weight back. I prefer to talk about positioning the shoulders vs. the hands, except to avoid having the hands close to the body.
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Good shot.
This shot is "interesting". If it is good skiing or not...hard to say, I suspect it is....but it is dependent on where in the turn you are in this shot....from the horizon it appears you are at the end of the turn....but according to some earlier posts it seems you are in an area of multiple fall lines, hence you many not really be at the end of the turn at all, but still carving hard back up the hill, as if you are about to come over a "nose". Do you recall? I would be surprised if it isnt the later.

In any event one thing that can be said for sure, and a few people have mentioned this, is that you could be abit more "open" with your upper body...ie show more counter....ie show more upper body/lower body separation. The amount required is not alot in reality...maybe 10inches with your inside hand...2-3 inches with your inside hip...but it will FEEL like you are opening up 2-3 feet with your inside hand and a foot with your hip!....you'll know you are doing it right when your skiing feels like crap. (If you are wondering why I say that....just ask).
post #25 of 29
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thanks for all the input...........still playing around w/ stuff. The hill is surely interesting.

Agreed that I need more upper/lower separation. I am thinking more about being square to the hill......not ness. countered. Also doing more w/ the feet (vs. the body).

Thanks all
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Hack .
post #27 of 29
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thanks for all the input...........still playing around w/ stuff. The hill is surely interesting.

Agreed that I need more upper/lower separation. I am thinking more about being square to the hill......not ness. countered. Also doing more w/ the feet (vs. the body).

Thanks all
Those sound like some really good things to work on. How do your transitions fit into the picture (just curious because it is impossible to tell from these pics)?
post #28 of 29
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Those sound like some really good things to work on. How do your transitions fit into the picture (just curious because it is impossible to tell from these pics)?
I think that this is the crux of modern skiing........... mine are getting much better, but we had this discussion while training w/ a mixed age group the other day.

Modern (ie young racer's / kids never knowing a 213 GS ski) have a great transition & complete a turn by hucking the skis away from their body b/c they know from experience that they will hit a hi edge angle & return ( super cross under & extesion..........trying to stay low tech here)

Masters/older folks when forced w a must make or hard turn, fall inside & crank out a turn.........the form breaks down & compenstion occurs, most often in a pivot/excess cross OVER or in my case too much rotation/arm

I am focused this season on skiing w/ the feet, better cross under, legs > trunk & staying square more

we'll see
post #29 of 29
Those are some good observations, and certainly true. It is impressive to see what the younger generation is doing on skis these days (kids who have only ever raced on shaped skis). Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Later
Greg
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