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Poll Results: how do you feel about snowboarders

 
  • 17% (23)
    I like Snowboarders.
  • 40% (55)
    Snowboarders are fine, and have as much of a right to be on the slopes as anyone else.
  • 17% (23)
    Indifferent.
  • 17% (24)
    Snowboarders can be here, but I'd rather they are not on the slopes.
  • 7% (10)
    I hate Snowboarders.
135 Total Votes  
post #61 of 85
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
And wouldn't you know it..
He married my daughter
Good thing this ain't TGR. Nice work there.

Mucho respect here for good snowboarders. All twelve of 'em.

Taos has some pretty sweet bumps. Coincidence? Actually I feel bad for all of 'em around here driving all the way up to Wolf Creek, which is one of those places that should ban snowboarders because the flat runouts just suck for people without functional equipment they can move around on without hopping like a man sized snow compactor.

Snowboarding isn't a sport or a lifestyle like skiing for any but a small handful of participants. For the most part it is a few day a year recreational activity for people with little investment in learning, technique, etc. At a given speed, snowboards are much more difficult to change direction. Don't believe me? Let's race. : So you combine people without much skill or experience with a younger demo taking more risks using inferior equipment and you have a recipe for disaster.
post #62 of 85
I would miss them if they were not around. My buds and I would have to find a whole new group to make fun of. No underwear hanging out, arms flapping like a bird trying to fly, not hearing "dude" every other word, dressing like Dopey and no more yard sales that look like a propeller going down the hill. Let em stay I need the laughs.
post #63 of 85

People always tell me...

..."Wow, you're a ski racer? That stuff's really dangerous!" Nope, skiing with the public is what really scares me. Being the only person on a closed course is a controlled environment. So snowboarders aren't the only people I dodge, but here's my snowboarder story. Something like 5 seasons ago, about this time of the year, I'm skiing Schoolmarm at Keystone (which goes to show how smart I am). I'm coaching one of my teammates and we pull over to the side...way over to the side. Doesn't make any difference. We're standing there, a snowboarder comes out of the woods, makes a blind huck over a bump, and pile drives me into the turf. Result: I get a broken collar bone, mild concussion, strained ligament in my left knee. He, of course, is uninjured. Guess what he said to me? "Dude, you were on my line...".

So three guesses and the first two don't count...how do you think I feel about snowboarders?
post #64 of 85
Consider yourself lucky, I've been hit 5 times.
post #65 of 85
Got hit by a snowboarder on in Squaw twice. the same guy! That said, i have no problem with snowboarders in general, and fine riding in powder is a beautiful sight. They help open up the tree skiing too. Bumps at Mary Jane are better than Taos and they allow snowboarders, so i sure don't think taos' bumps would suffer any. Besides, been hit more often by skiers than boarders. my mother had her back broken by an out of control skier. Stupidity is an equal opportunity handicap. FREE TAOS!
post #66 of 85
Thanks, Mom.

Did your mom recover from that? If some one breaks your back, that's assault. He needs to go to jail.

I think the guy who hit you twice was interested in you. Did you end up exchanging info?

Agree about the bumps. We observed at Ski Liberty very early on that snowboards smooth out the ruts, our nasty little bumps got a little friendlier around 1987. Side slipping a bump run is not easy, so most unskilled boarders avoid the bumps.
post #67 of 85
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Good thing this ain't TGR. Nice work there.

Mucho respect here for good snowboarders. All twelve of 'em.

Taos has some pretty sweet bumps. Coincidence? Actually I feel bad for all of 'em around here driving all the way up to Wolf Creek, which is one of those places that should ban snowboarders because the flat runouts just suck for people without functional equipment they can move around on without hopping like a man sized snow compactor.

Snowboarding isn't a sport or a lifestyle like skiing for any but a small handful of participants. For the most part it is a few day a year recreational activity for people with little investment in learning, technique, etc. At a given speed, snowboards are much more difficult to change direction. Don't believe me? Let's race. : So you combine people without much skill or experience with a younger demo taking more risks using inferior equipment and you have a recipe for disaster.
You are an athletic college student, I'm a klutzy 50 something. Do you think a race between us would mean anything? Race yourself on skis and snowboard and let us know the results.
post #68 of 85
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Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes View Post
You think people who turn their nose up at your sport are being sympathetic?

He said he was sorry, which is how we express sympathy. In response, you called him a douche bag and assaulted him by jibbing on his head. Sorry about the angry white man comment. That was the skier in me.
post #69 of 85
Love a good hate thread!
post #70 of 85
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Stupidity is an equal opportunity handicap. FREE TAOS!
RIGHT ON MOM!

About 10 years ago my parents were waiting in the lift line at the bottom of Copper. A skier blew into the lift line and slammed into both my parents. My mother was blown out of her ski boots. The skier he just kept on going and didn't even check on my parents. My parents were both hurt with my mother not being able to ski for the rest of the week. The collision destroyed her ski boots and destroyed my dads ski poles. Do I blame skiers. No! I blame irresponsible selfish people.

I've been run into by many skiers. Most just weren't being aware of their surroundings. Accidents happen too. This past weekend a skier accidentally knocked me over while I was getting off the chair lift. Her husband a beginner skier cut her off and shoved her into me. She apologized, I told her accidents happen and to have a great afternoon. If I see people congregating at the bottom of the chair lift ramp, I treat it as a chance for safety education. It helps to approach people in a non-judgemental manner. Most people just don't realize what a hazard it is.
post #71 of 85
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Do you think a race between us would mean anything? Race yourself on skis and snowboard and let us know the results.
LOL, thanks, I don't think anyone has ever called me athletic before. I snowboard like a big huge gapetastic moron. My fave sorta-sideways device is the teleboard. Regardless, my point is more about the statistics that create the stereotype.

You want a large sample including age? Go check the NASTAR results. Those are dead simple courses that don't require much in the way of direction change, and snowboarders get a 10 percent bump across the board...

Yet they still don't fare well:
http://www.nastar.com/index.jsp?page...icap&year=2007
http://www.nastar.com/index.jsp?page...icap&year=2007
http://www.nastar.com/index.jsp?page...icap&year=2007
From the championships:
http://www.nastar.com/index.jsp?page...p=39&year=2007

I just noticed NASTAR gives you an even bigger bump for being a telemarketer. Hmm. My buddy who used to beat me on alpine gear now loses by about that on telemark gear so I guess that makes sense, but I do find it surprising.
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Originally Posted by Mom
Stupidity is an equal opportunity handicap.
LOL. You make good points. My FREE TAOS argument is that it would make it much easier to find rideshares. My counterpoint is that Taos owns, and I don't like people fixing that which ain't broke.
post #72 of 85
I got mugged by a white guy once. Damned honkeys.

I have gotten mauled by straight lining skiers on several occasions, some were very brutal. Damned skiers.

I have never gotten hit by a snowboarder. They must be good people.

:


All of the above were true stories. For those of you who wonder, my reactions were facetious.

Oh, and Garrett, I'd love to race you. I'll be on Volkl SL skis. What kind of snowboard will you be riding?
post #73 of 85
A splittie?
post #74 of 85
Wait a minute. Garrett Teleboards!? That makes three of us. We deserve our own forum!

That's awesome a rider from Bryce won the snowboard NASTAR National Championship. Phil, you must know the third place, Sebastian Morbieu from Roundtop. Fourth was from Wisp!
post #75 of 85
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Originally Posted by slip View Post
The only thing I hate more than racism and generalizations are Catholics.
Thanks so much for sharing.It's good to be upfront when meeting new people.
post #76 of 85
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Did your mom recover from that? If some one breaks your back, that's assault. He needs to go to jail.
Yes, but she never got over her fear of other people on the slopes, even 30 years later. no jail for him; it was in Lech in the 50's. back then, you just took your lumps.

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I think the guy who hit you twice was interested in you. Did you end up exchanging info?
Heehee. forums are great....he was a young dood and i'm an old lady. not likely! It was all in good humor though. he was most embarrassed and i was not hurt. at first annoyed and then i figured, heck it was a beautiful, snowy day and life was good.
post #77 of 85
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Originally Posted by GarryZ View Post
Thanks so much for sharing.It's good to be upfront when meeting new people.
I wasn't going to mention the fact that my reply was SARCASTIC in intent, but since this is the second person who didn't seem to get it. .

"The only thing I hate more than racists are Catholics"

Get it? Internal contradiction?

Geeze.
post #78 of 85
post #79 of 85
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Snowboarding isn't a sport or a lifestyle like skiing for any but a small handful of participants. For the most part it is a few day a year recreational activity for people with little investment in learning, technique, etc. At a given speed, snowboards are much more difficult to change direction. Don't believe me? Let's race. : So you combine people without much skill or experience with a younger demo taking more risks using inferior equipment and you have a recipe for disaster.
I've got to disagree with that. I've got friends who were die-hard skiers who have completely converted to riding and do it regularly. It is a way of life for them.

Furthermore, aren't there TONS of "few day a year recreational" skiers, too? Does the fact that they may not invest as must as others in learning and technique make them as guilty as the snowboarders?

I am looking forward to the next innovation in alpine downhill sports. We need another modality so some of the heat can be displaced from snowboard to ???whatever is next.
post #80 of 85
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Originally Posted by philsthrills View Post
Excellent. The very quote I based this on. Thanks for helping provide evidence that it isn't just my own sense of humor that is warped!
post #81 of 85
Thread Starter 
Thank you all for your participation. As this has become (as predicted) a bit of the annual snowboard bash thread, I am going to request it be closed and locked and whatever. I learned what I was interested in. A full third of the epic population still has negative feelings towards snowboarders.

As a boarder (primarily) I am disappointed to see that such a large population of of dedicated winter sports enthusiasts can still be harboring the negativity. I find it interesting that I dont believe 1/3 of the people I encounter at the slopes feels this way; at least they don't outwardly project it to me as a complete stranger. I also find it surprising that despite what snowboarding has contributed to skiing, so many people who are "In the know" could still resent us.

I may post one more quick poll (flawed, of course) to attempt to identify the most signifigant reason for the ill will. I have my suspicions, but this should confirm them. As a coach and instructor, I would hope to be able to pass pass the good information onto my students.

Thanks again,
Noah
post #82 of 85
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Originally Posted by slip View Post
Excellent. The very quote I based this on. Thanks for helping provide evidence that it isn't just my own sense of humor that is warped!
Next time use something like this: or use a more accurate wording that connects the two . Catholic and racism have no link therefore your false analogy doesn't make sense. Maye racists and klan members or religious people and Catholics. It's understood now and I 'm glad you meant it as a joke and not an attack on a large group.

Skiers have long been less than supportive in the past regarding snowboarders and their place on the mountain. I thought that was much in the past but it seems , by this poll, that some still cling to their misplaced sense of ownership of their right to ride the mountains without other forms of sliding being present. I would bet more was in jest than in reality. I see little of this when on the mountains other than both groups poking fun at each other at times.
post #83 of 85
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post #84 of 85
If it were not for snowboard $$$, more than a few smaller ski areas would probably fold.
post #85 of 85
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Originally Posted by stoweguy View Post
If it were not for snowboard $$$, more than a few smaller ski areas would probably fold.
Was probably true a while back, but the pendulum seems to be swinging back, at least around here. Of course, it's certainly healthier to have all of the "skier visits" from both groups (and those freaks who actually slide in multiple modes!).
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