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Tyrolia Bindings "Sloppy"?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Tyrolia bindings have gotten their share of solid props here on the forum. I have Tyrolia Railflex ll LD 12s on my boards. My local shop guy, though, told me he thinks Tyrolia bindings are "sloppy" and don't give you a good ski/snow feel (wouldn't think of carrying them at his shop). He said there is a noticeable difference when compared with other bindings (Salomon, Marker, Rossi) on the same skis.

Thoughts?

Esquiador
post #2 of 14
Sounds like your local shop guy is a bit biased. Who is he a rep for: Salomon, Marler, or Rossi?
post #3 of 14
Any floating binding that provides freeflex is a little more "sloppy" than a fixed binding that does not provide freeflex.

The trick is to provide an apples-to-apples comparison.

Michael
post #4 of 14
My bro has Sollys and they are no more rigid than my Tyrolias. Are they completely rock solid, no, but thats the nature of the design, to be dynamic so that you dont get ejected as your ski articulates the terrain.
post #5 of 14
I haven't had a problem with this in my FF17+, 490s, or Fischer FR12s.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
I haven't had a problem with this in my FF17+, 490s, or Fischer FR12s.
Other than my backcountry skis, I've skied Tyrolia almost exclusively for the last three seasons. If I've experienced a "sloppy" problem, I'd say it's more a function of the guy on top of the skis than the bindings.

Personally, I think they're solid as can be.
post #7 of 14
I dunno - I use the Fischer FR-11s (on VIST WCRV plates) and I believe they're Tyrolia-made. Sloppy? Don't think so. Any decent modern binding moves so that toe and heel pieces don't get forced together from a ski decambered by carving - even without a good plate. If that's slop, I'll take it any day over a random eject in the middle of a high G turn.
post #8 of 14
Haven't noticed any issues with my Tyrolia bindings; I can't say they are much different than Sollys and Markers I have skied on recently.
post #9 of 14
Can't say that I have ever had felt some slop in a Tyrolia. They are just as good as other bindings out on the market.
post #10 of 14
IMO - the design of the FF17 is the best on the market because of the diagonal heel. Once the Look P-18 and Rossi 155/185 is phased out compeltely this will be the only remaining binding on the market with a diagonal heel release.
post #11 of 14
The salesman may say they are sloppy because he can't get them in his shop.
I use them and found nothing wrong.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Great feedback, the kind of stuff I was looking for.

Thanks!
post #13 of 14
I occasionally ski with an x-world cupper, and he's on nothing but Tyrolia bindings. His boots are 150 flex rating, and he'd accept no slop at all. By the way, his shop guy tests the release of every binding their shop works on, and he's never found a Tyrolia/Head binding that tests different from the setting. (Head owns Tyrolia*). He says that other brands sometimes are not accurate to the setting or not consistent (my Solli test 0.5 lower than the setting but are consistent).

*Quiksilver owns Rossi & Look (but trying to sell).
Jarden owns Marker.
Amer Sports owns Atomic and Salomon.
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
IMO - the design of the FF17 is the best on the market because of the diagonal heel. Once the Look P-18 and Rossi 155/185 is phased out compeltely this will be the only remaining binding on the market with a diagonal heel release.
I suppose that would depend on who you ask. The FF20 has the diagonal heel, but the full-blown freestyle version, Mojo 20, has the heel locked out. Apparently, some people don't find it favorable. As for me, I have plenty of skis mounted with FF17 or variants; no problems whatsoever.
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