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Is this process for molding Dalbello Intuition liners correct?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Dear All

In a few days I will get my Dalbello Krypton Cross ID liners heat molded at the shop (Waiting for the Dalbello liner heater to arrive). I am sure the shop is knowledgable but I want to be prepared. Below are the steps I plan to go through during the fitting process. What do you experts think? Does the steps sound right or have I forgotten anything?


Preparation
1. Attach custom footbed under foot and hold it in place with thin sports tape.
2. Place neopren toe cap over toes and footbed.
3. Attach foam padding to hot spots (inside ankle bone and small protruding heel bone). If the shop does not have padding I will bring some latex or 3mm depron foam to make padings from.
4. Hold everything in place with a thin ski sock (Falke SK4)

Molding
1. Do one foot at a time
2. Remove the stock footbed from the liner
3. Heat the liner on the Dalbello heater (kind of a air blower) with the liner in the boots
4. When heated have someone help opening the boots
5. Carefully stick foot into liner/boot.
6. Pull carefully up on the liner and and make sure it sits correctly on the foot with no wrinkles
7. Close all buckles in a loose position
8. Bang boot heal into floor a few times to make the heel settle into the heel pocket.
9. Now close buckles to a middle tight posion (Do not overtighten)
10. Stand with the boot slightly elevated (using a thick phone book or similar) with the tip of the boot raised about 2" off the floor
11. Wait 15 minutes for the liner to cool
12. Unbuclke and the remove foot from the boot.
13. Remove padding, toe cap and custom footbed the foot and place footbed into liner.
14. Do the other boot while first one cools completely off. Then test the fit.

Questions:
1) I have Sidas comform'able custom footbeds (the orange pro ones). Won't they get deformed (ruined) by the heat from the hot liner?


Best regards
Flemming
post #2 of 10
foot beds should be fine and worst case you can remold the footbeds after.

most of the time that system works great

step #6 is VERY important, wrinkles = bad
post #3 of 10
Put some type of "lubricant" on inside of shell: I've heard wd-40, Armorall, cooking oil(?), ect. Will help liner slide into shell, reduce wrinkling.
post #4 of 10
Thread Starter 
I think that the dalbello ID liners are heated in the shell with hot air. At least thats the picture shown on dalbellos homepage.

http://www.dalbello.it/technologies/id-thermo.html

Best regards
Flemming
post #5 of 10
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
I think that the dalbello ID liners are heated in the shell with hot air. At least thats the picture shown on dalbellos homepage.

http://www.dalbello.it/technologies/id-thermo.html

Best regards
Flemming
Opps..my bad But I was invision the smell of hot peanut as you slipped in the liners
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ok so I went to the shop today.

We did follow the process as described above except for two deviations. The first was that we did both boots at the same time and the second was that we placed the custom footbeds in the liner after heating and not on the foot under the sock.

The machine/blower that was used was green and said Intiution Vancouver on it. It has four pipes comming out it, two for each boot, and the boot was placed horizontal on it for 15 minutes at I think 120 Celsius (about 245-250 F). I took about 1-2 minutes from we removed the boots from the heater until we had both boots buckled up on my foot. It was a bit difficult to fit the footbed in the liner so the liner was pulled out a bit (no wrinkles when put back inside).

I would have thought that the liner would have been hotter and feeling gelly like but it was just felt warm throught the sock and softer but not like gelly. Does think seem right?

Now my feet are still a bit sore from the process (the toe cap put a lot of preasure on my toes and my ankle bone is a bit sore as well as we placed some self adhering padding there inside the sock (the shop had some round 4-5mm think padding) but I can feel that the fit is different and to the better after trying them out afterwards. I can slightly feel the circle imprint made from the ankle padding so some forming must have happended.

The shop I went to are extremely friendly and I am very pleased with their service.

Regards
Flemming
post #7 of 10
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
we placed the custom footbeds in the liner after heating and not on the foot under the sock.
Same when I got mine formed.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
I would have thought that the liner would have been hotter and feeling gelly like but it was just felt warm throught the sock and softer but not like gelly. Does think seem right?

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I can slightly feel the circle imprint made from the ankle padding so some forming must have happended.
That sounds wrong to me. Admittedly, mine were formed using a convection oven rather than the inserts. But they definitely felt gel-like. And after forming, there was no question that forming had worked -- even without extra padding during forming, I can distinctly feel where my ankle formed.
post #8 of 10
These do "feel" different than a Thermoflex when being molded, not at hot or as warm and squishy.
post #9 of 10
AD, where did you get yours molded?
post #10 of 10
Helm of Sun Valley in San Mateo. Make an appointment with Gary.
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