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Question about New K2 Comanche Skis
post #2 of 10
12/3/07 at 7:13pm
please take my advice with a grain of salt because i too am relatively new to the sport, but i have been trolling this forum for the past two years and i would advise you to do the same.
if i remember correctly, the commanche line was beginner/intermediate line for K2 a couple of years ago. My understanding is that the ski companies that sell to the "sports department stores" (i.e. Sportsauthority) rebadge or rename their skis so that they do not seem to compete directly with the ski shops. That being said, the top-of -the line commanche skis may serve your purposes well. The original price of these skis may tell you how "advanced" these skis are supposed to be. i would think that the original MSRP would need to be in the $500-$600 range if not higher. I am basing this on the fact that you are doing diamonds in upstate NY and VT. Also important is the dimensions- given where you ski, you would want a narrower waist- i would think in the lower 70's or 60's for the eastern ice. Finally, i would think that 150 is too short for you- i would think 160 to 165 would be more appropriate. The advice that my ski shop gave me when i bought my first pair is true- buy skis that you can grow into.
Now the disclaimers. Many in this forum will tell you that it's rarely the skis but the skier; and if you have money to spend on ski equipment, first thing you should buy is good fitting boots- not at Sportsauthority either- but at a good (although subjective) ski shop. I would think you'd want to get out of renting boots before getting out of renting skis (much easier to pack also).
If i am wrong about any of the above, i'm sure someone here will jump right in.
if i remember correctly, the commanche line was beginner/intermediate line for K2 a couple of years ago. My understanding is that the ski companies that sell to the "sports department stores" (i.e. Sportsauthority) rebadge or rename their skis so that they do not seem to compete directly with the ski shops. That being said, the top-of -the line commanche skis may serve your purposes well. The original price of these skis may tell you how "advanced" these skis are supposed to be. i would think that the original MSRP would need to be in the $500-$600 range if not higher. I am basing this on the fact that you are doing diamonds in upstate NY and VT. Also important is the dimensions- given where you ski, you would want a narrower waist- i would think in the lower 70's or 60's for the eastern ice. Finally, i would think that 150 is too short for you- i would think 160 to 165 would be more appropriate. The advice that my ski shop gave me when i bought my first pair is true- buy skis that you can grow into.
Now the disclaimers. Many in this forum will tell you that it's rarely the skis but the skier; and if you have money to spend on ski equipment, first thing you should buy is good fitting boots- not at Sportsauthority either- but at a good (although subjective) ski shop. I would think you'd want to get out of renting boots before getting out of renting skis (much easier to pack also).
If i am wrong about any of the above, i'm sure someone here will jump right in.

post #3 of 10
1/10/08 at 4:20pm
I also have these same skiis and would like more information on them. anyone have any info?
post #4 of 10
1/10/08 at 4:46pm
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Well I'm a newbie too, so take my advice with a grain of salt, but we have about the same experience so I will give it a shot.
I don't own a set of Commanches and am not familiar with the Pro model, however I do know a couple of people with Commanche 'Hawk' model skis. They are definitely a beginner/intermediate model ski with a 112-70-97 sidecut and a 16M radius at 167. Actually quite similar to the Rossignol Cut Pros I ski with currently (and which you often see as rentals). The Cuts are also beginner/intermediate skis and I am about ready to upgrade but I would never sell them. They are ridiculously easy to ski on, can tackle anything within reason, ski any slope and I never have to worry about them getting stolen. They are perfect for Eastern slopes here, particularly when the conditions are crap. Forget about powder. If I go out west to ski Whistler I'll rent some powder skis LOL!
I would think the Commanches are quite similar to my skis. Mine have saved me a ton of money in rental costs over the years and are as good or better as any of the less expensive rental skis I have seen. Unless you have been skiiing on high end rentals the Commanches will probably be just as enjoyable as anything you have rented. And of course because they are yours you can keep them waxed and edged much better than rentals.
The one thing I might worry about is the length, but even then... you can have a ton of fun on 150s and when you upgrade keep them as fun skis and rock skis. At that length, they might even fit in the trunk! LOL!
My take is you might as well throw some bindings on them and give them a shot now that you've bought them. Get some inexpensive Tyrolia SL100s, or something similar, and have at 'er.
I don't own a set of Commanches and am not familiar with the Pro model, however I do know a couple of people with Commanche 'Hawk' model skis. They are definitely a beginner/intermediate model ski with a 112-70-97 sidecut and a 16M radius at 167. Actually quite similar to the Rossignol Cut Pros I ski with currently (and which you often see as rentals). The Cuts are also beginner/intermediate skis and I am about ready to upgrade but I would never sell them. They are ridiculously easy to ski on, can tackle anything within reason, ski any slope and I never have to worry about them getting stolen. They are perfect for Eastern slopes here, particularly when the conditions are crap. Forget about powder. If I go out west to ski Whistler I'll rent some powder skis LOL!
I would think the Commanches are quite similar to my skis. Mine have saved me a ton of money in rental costs over the years and are as good or better as any of the less expensive rental skis I have seen. Unless you have been skiiing on high end rentals the Commanches will probably be just as enjoyable as anything you have rented. And of course because they are yours you can keep them waxed and edged much better than rentals.
The one thing I might worry about is the length, but even then... you can have a ton of fun on 150s and when you upgrade keep them as fun skis and rock skis. At that length, they might even fit in the trunk! LOL!
My take is you might as well throw some bindings on them and give them a shot now that you've bought them. Get some inexpensive Tyrolia SL100s, or something similar, and have at 'er.
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1/10/08 at 4:57pm
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Comanche was a regular part of the K2 line through the 06/07 season. The series ranged from the Comanche 2 through the Comanche 5. The 2 was intended as a "learning" (read beginner) ski, the 3 was for "developing intermediates", the 4 for intermediate skiers and the 5 for intermediate-advanced. Today's Stryker line replaced the Comanche line.
All four models had torsion box construction with K2's dampening MOD technology. The torsion box has a wood core and is wrapped with glass. The lower three models used fir, the 5 used fir and aspen for the core, with the aspen making them more stiff.
All models should be easy turning and stable at typical speeds for the intended skier level. A 5 should have fairly good edge holding and be smooth and stable at fairly brisk paces. I would guess the "pro" model was the equivalent of the 5 in earlier seasons.
All four models had torsion box construction with K2's dampening MOD technology. The torsion box has a wood core and is wrapped with glass. The lower three models used fir, the 5 used fir and aspen for the core, with the aspen making them more stiff.
All models should be easy turning and stable at typical speeds for the intended skier level. A 5 should have fairly good edge holding and be smooth and stable at fairly brisk paces. I would guess the "pro" model was the equivalent of the 5 in earlier seasons.
post #6 of 10
1/10/08 at 5:07pm
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Comanche was a regular part of the K2 line through the 06/07 season. The series ranged from the Comanche 2 through the Comanche 5. The 2 was intended as a "learning" (read beginner) ski, the 3 was for "developing intermediates", the 4 for intermediate skiers and the 5 for intermediate-advanced. Today's Stryker line replaced the Comanche line.
All four models had torsion box construction with K2's dampening MOD technology. The torsion box has a wood core and is wrapped with glass. The lower three models used fir, the 5 used fir and aspen for the core, with the aspen making them more stiff. All models should be easy turning and stable at typical speeds for the intended skier level. A 5 should have fairly good edge holding and be smooth and stable at fairly brisk paces. I would guess the "pro" model was the equivalent of the 5 in earlier seasons. |
from what I read...it doesn't go like beginner --> advanced from 2com-->5com....the only difference I found out was that the higher the number means a bigger width. Other than that, they are the same. I also found out they all range from beginner to advanced and it is made for all terrains.
post #7 of 10
1/10/08 at 5:11pm
They are still worth some money..they are still $200 just for the ski's on sale. I think MSRP was $299.99.
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1/10/08 at 5:16pm
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They are still worth some money..they are still $200 just for the ski's on sale. I think MSRP was $299.99.
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1/10/08 at 5:20pm
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Sounds like your Commanches are a bit higher end than the ones I have seen here and certainly worth more than my Rossis. However around here thieves don't look twice at $200 skis. Leave a set of $1000 skis unlocked however and there's a definite chance they won't be there when you get back....
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