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Saving scraped off wax after a hot wax for later use?

post #1 of 19
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Is the wax that is scraped off your skis when you hot wax them, still usable if it is neatly collected?
Its not that i cant afford more, but you scrape off the majority of the wax, so im wondering if its reusable.
Please share your opinions.
Thank You.
post #2 of 19
I guess if you kept a very "sterile" bench .... but after doing the edges and having file grit and shavings around .... I did try it once with some of the more expensive wax for my kids race skis .... even after brushing the bench pretty well you could still feel the crap with the first pass of the iron on my skis.

Just learn not to go too heavy on the wax; just what you need and generate less waste.
post #3 of 19
I recycle a lot of my wax. If it isn't terribly full of Ptex or metal shavings from major work I throw it in a big ziplock bag and then at some point I melt it down in an old coffee pot on an old hot plate and then I pour it through an old kitchen strainer held over a new cone shaped paint strainer from the local h-ware store into a leftover wax tray. Looks like wax to me! No impurities visible to the naked eye - how bad can it be? Especially for just a run of the mill skier like my self. Although I tend to use it just for storage coat on my skis or on friends snobords
post #4 of 19
Agree with Yuki. If you can keep it clean it's fine. I used to spread out some plastic or wax paper and collect the shavings. These days I don't work in a sterile environment and I touch up my edges as well as wax, so I just gave up on it.
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by immax01 View Post
Is the wax that is scraped off your skis when you hot wax them, still usable if it is neatly collected?
Its not that i cant afford more, but you scrape off the majority of the wax, so im wondering if its reusable.
1) Sounds like you are using (and wasting) too much wax.
2) There will be unknown contaminants in the scrapings
3) wax is cheap (compared to our gear & time)
4) recycling and reusing where you can is good, but labor intensive in this case

FWIW, I hot waxed 3 pair today and there wasn't enough 'shavings' to even consider as it was more like dust. If you practice dripping as little as possible on, you'd be amazed how little you actually need and not damage your bases. (Another plus of a good iron.) If tentative, you can use a teflon sheet between iron and base for protection. Liquid and sprays leave little to waste......and no scraping.
post #6 of 19
Crayon/rub on the wax before ironing and you will lose even less wax.
post #7 of 19
Exactly.
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Originally Posted by Doctor D View Post
Crayon/rub on the wax before ironing and you will lose even less wax.
post #8 of 19
slather on cheap wax to clean, crayon on fancy wax
post #9 of 19
Don't ever re-use wax scrapings! They are full of dirt, impurities, and metal shards. It's like re-using bong water!
post #10 of 19
This was already discussed 3 years ago....

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ight=wax+reuse

Cheers,

cfr
post #11 of 19
That is great advice when the guys selling wax tell you to use less!!! :

Personally for the little bit of scrapings and dust I can't see trying to save it and re-use it, but to each his own.
post #12 of 19
HA! At the shop I used to work at, we kept the scrapings, melted them together (looked like diarrhea...) and gave it in chunks to snowboarders!! The good ol' days... FWIW, it was probably the only wax they used... :
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by axebiker View Post
HA! At the shop I used to work at, we kept the scrapings, melted them together (looked like diarrhea...) and gave it in chunks to snowboarders!! The good ol' days... FWIW, it was probably the only wax they used... :
YOU CAN WAX SNOWBOARDS??!!!
post #14 of 19
About the only reason I can think of saving shavings .... sooner or later .... you will look over at the bench and damned if your kid didn't use the last of the wax. It hasn't happened yet, but I do have one bag of junk shavings down there.

At that point the melt and strain idea sounds pretty good but .... but there is one minor detail for those of you who have never melted wax.

Once upon a time there was a surfer who shall go unidentified .. who got tired of rubbing all that wax on and got the bright idea to put it in a pot and heat it on the stove. Now, this dum adz kid didn't know squat about things like "vapor pressure" .... or ..... "flash points" ..... the ball of fire that will suddenly appear over the stove can be quite intense.

When the kids mom came home and noticed that he was missing all of the hair on one arm, a eyebrow and his hair was shorter in the front ... she kinda' mentioned that's why she uses a "double boiler" to melt wax.

Bring a pot of water to a low boil and then put a smaller pot with the wax in it into the larger pot and be patient. According to my mom ... it won't hit flash point.

Any better ideas? I guess the "old hot plate" on a real low setting .. certainly better than a stove!
post #15 of 19
Re-melting scrapings then using them again means breathing the same fumes (flourocarbons/hydrocarbons/teflon) three times for every single chunk of wax. Seems easier on the wallet (and the brain cells) to just buy a fresh chunk of wax. If you want to stretch your wax the furthest, use the crayoning method, hotbox, or cork the stuff in!
Just don't reuse wax. It draws the dirt and impurities out of the pores of the base... Don't put them back in.
post #16 of 19
Yeah. I just buy cheap wax, crayon it on, iron it in, and the scrapings just go in the trash. I'm cheap (Dominator wax), but not THAT cheap (re-using cheap wax).
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
About the only reason I can think of saving shavings .... sooner or later .... you will look over at the bench and damned if your kid didn't use the last of the wax. It hasn't happened yet, but I do have one bag of junk shavings down there.

At that point the melt and strain idea sounds pretty good but .... but there is one minor detail for those of you who have never melted wax.

Once upon a time there was a surfer who shall go unidentified .. who got tired of rubbing all that wax on and got the bright idea to put it in a pot and heat it on the stove. Now, this dum adz kid didn't know squat about things like "vapor pressure" .... or ..... "flash points" ..... the ball of fire that will suddenly appear over the stove can be quite intense.

When the kids mom came home and noticed that he was missing all of the hair on one arm, a eyebrow and his hair was shorter in the front ... she kinda' mentioned that's why she uses a "double boiler" to melt wax.

Bring a pot of water to a low boil and then put a smaller pot with the wax in it into the larger pot and be patient. According to my mom ... it won't hit flash point.

Any better ideas? I guess the "old hot plate" on a real low setting .. certainly better than a stove!
Crock pot would work too.
post #18 of 19
Scraping the wax while it's still warm works great as a cleaning pass. I like to do two cleaning passes, and then a final wax geared towards expected temperature & conditions. What this also means, of course, is that the warm wax that is scraped off will have a lot of dirt in it, so I wouldn't consider trying to re-use it. Re-melting & filtering would probably help, but for me, not worth the effort.
post #19 of 19
Ha!! Waxing 3 times isn't worth the effort either...
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