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Need recommendation: Deep powder skis

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a set of skis that will be good in deep, deep powder. I'm going to be skiing in Aomori, Japan. The mountain I'll be working at has no groomed runs and routinely gets huge amounts of powder every few days.

I have a set of 170CM Fischer RX-9's for groomers.

I'm 5'7" and approx 185lbs.

Trying to keep under $450-$500 if possible but will look at alternatives.

Thanks!
post #2 of 25
Hakkoda? (I remember you from snowjapan.)

lots of touring around there too, as well as from the top. STAY AWAY from the japanese guides. There is a local foreign guide who has wwaaaaay more avi and guiding experience around there.

check out TGR for the Nordica Blowers for 300 bucks. (I think they're on Ebay too.)

mntlion who frequents this forum and tgr is also selling some goodies.

anyway, I'd recommend the blowers if you'll be touring or a reverse camber if you'll just be doing laps on the gondola. the traverseing at that place is nill except for a couple of run outs. But on deep days, I imagine you'll just be doing top-to-bottoms = spatula/praxis.

My ideal quiver for living there would be
100-110 underfoot with a duke (gotama/blower) for anyday (including deep)
and a 195 praxis with alpine bindings.

your rx9 might never touch hakkoda, fwiw.

so... will you be touring?
post #3 of 25
The first thing that comes to mind is the K2 Hellbent but it's a new model and you won't likely find one on sale. The Line Prophet 130 is huge and skis well but has a semi conventional shape. It might be found at a discount. I have seen K2 Pontoons on sale for $500 but that's a while ago and I don't know about now.

SJ
post #4 of 25
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=103650

spatulas, $300, like new, drilled once
post #5 of 25
There are some deals floating around on Sanouks for less than your budget.

Search TGR...
post #6 of 25
Volkl Sumo skis are out there at a marked down price, at 120 under foot with a soft flex. It's very popular here a Squaw, even though our snow is fairly heavy, so a versatile ski.
post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
The first thing that comes to mind is the K2 Hellbent but it's a new model and you won't likely find one on sale. The Line Prophet 130 is huge and skis well but has a semi conventional shape. It might be found at a discount. I have seen K2 Pontoons on sale for $500 but that's a while ago and I don't know about now.

SJ
C'mon - who really needs any of these skis? I'm sure the OP could get along just fine on a mid-fat all-mountain ski.

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Originally Posted by StormDay View Post
There are some deals floating around on Sanouks for less than your budget.

Search TGR...
No there's not. I'm buying up every pair of sub $400 Sanouks out there. I've got three pair so far. Stay away from my Sanouks.:
post #8 of 25
So you cleaned ptex1 out?
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
C'mon - who really needs any of these skis? I'm sure the OP could get along just fine on a mid-fat all-mountain ski.

No there's not. I'm buying up every pair of sub $400 Sanouks out there. I've got three pair so far. Stay away from my Sanouks.:

I think that the OP's situation is a perfect application for the skis that I suggested. Hopefully he will not heed the really unwise suggestion from you to buy a mid-fat.

SJ
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
C'mon - who really needs any of these skis? I'm sure the OP could get along just fine on a mid-fat all-mountain ski.
Jer-

where he's going is one tram to one peak for about 4000 vert. The terrain is very large varieties of trees from open glades to birch. It also receives a two month long siberian freeze/dump every winter. I was there for 4 days and never crossed another's track. It's one of Japan's premier BC resorts. No grooming, no rules.

mid-fat?
post #11 of 25
^so it's like the Silverton of The Far East?


As for the OP's inquiry, I have Spats. Love 'em. Addmitedly I've only ridden them a total of 6 days, but those were six great days.

The downsides to them are that they are heavy and noodly. But once plunked in deep pow neither of those traits are apparant (they are only noticeable when hiking in-bounds with them on your shoulder or when hitting a hardpack groomer and watching the tips flop frantically).

The upsides? They float. They pivot. It's like driving a forklift in that you can turn on a dime, gain speed, scrub, slarve, smear, and slide to your heart's content.

If this is truly a deep only ski, then totally go for something with reverse camber.

Spats are the OG planks.

But folks like Praxis and DP have put some improvements into the mix (stiffer flex, a little more sidecut).

If you wanna keep it under $500, then Praxis or used Spats.

Other super wide possibilities (though I haven't ridden any, just heard good things) are:

Moment Comi
Fatypus Alotta
Birdos Puder Luder or Floater or Eleven
DP Lotus 138

There's others, but most will prolly be outside of that $500 range...

btw, the Duret Monstre Pow is only 549 Euros...

http://www.duretskis.com/index.php?idarticle=288

(they also have the Monstre Fat, which I believe is the widest ski in production at 177mm in the waist).
post #12 of 25
Saw some Prophet 130s on sale in a Tokyo shop a few weeks ago; forget the price, but I could check if OP's interested.
post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...d.php?t=103650

spatulas, $300, like new, drilled once
Look no further. Mntlion receives my highest rating for internet sales, a straight up guy. Used Spats are going for over $400 on ebay.

From most reports (read TGR threads on them), for deep snow, the Spatula is as good or better than anything that's been made.
post #14 of 25
K2 hellbent
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by PublicEnemy666 View Post
K2 hellbent
for under $500?

VA is right, I'm even contemplating those spatulas.
post #16 of 25
Methinks you guys need to calibrate your sarcasmometers for Jer's posts.

Unfortunately, the OP missed the Praxis pre-sale, but he may be able to score a pair that someone can't afford anymore, or a used pair of last season's 185s from someone who decided to upgrade to 195s.
post #17 of 25
of course the OP could always go this route:

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ght=water+skis


That would def be the cheapest...
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Methinks you guys need to calibrate your sarcasmometers for Jer's posts.
Geeee..........whatever do you mean?? I didn't think that Samurai nor I were being sarcastic at all.

SJ
post #19 of 25
Eh just sack up and spend a bit more.
Hellbents
Prophete 130's, or 100's
Line Bacons (I just copped a pair of these)
Gotamas
ARG's
EP Pro's
Moment Ruby's or any Moment pow ski
Sumos
Salomon Gun's
Pontoons
Katanas
post #20 of 25
interesting the OP hasn't popped back in to view the recommendations, eh?
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by samurai View Post
interesting the OP hasn't popped back in to view the recommendations, eh?
Troll???

SJ
post #22 of 25
no. he showed up on snowjapan too seeking other advice. maybe just not as active as the rest of us.
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
Hi all,

nope I'm not a troll just been keeping busy with work & etc this month. have a lot of things to do trying to close my life up here in north america before I leave.

I haven't purchased anything yet but someone pointed me towards some Fischer ski's called Porohete's, apparently they are a renamed version of an old fischer design called "Big Stix". They fall within my price range as well which is a bonus.
post #24 of 25
The Prohetes are indeed the reskinned Big Stix 106. I have not skied the 106, but the Big Stix 84s remain one of my favorite skis of all time. The Prohete/106 is reputably a master at big mountain charging, great in soft snow and remarkably responsive on firm. They are also quite demanding skis, and require strong input to ski well, but that's fairly typical across the Fischer line. If you like the RX9, they're probably an excellent choice.
post #25 of 25
There's a pair of them available cheap in Tokyo; don't remember the price, but not too expensive. Could find the shop again if you're interested.
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