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SPOILER--BC DH live results

post #1 of 15
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After 47 skiers, (Weibrecht and Lanning yet to go)

Walchhofer first; Nyman second 0.05 sec behind; Cuche third 0.10 seconds off the pace; Bode Miller 6th 0.36 seconds behind; Maier 11th, Hudec 16th, Raich 18th, MaCartney 19th, Sullivan 35th.

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/liveonline/alpineskiing.html

Bode Miller is picking up serious overall points on Svindal, Raich, Pallander, Hudec and Grange (who were the top 5 in overall points up until this race)

And in other Canadian news, Jon Kucera 12th, Eric Guay 14th, Osborne-Paradis 43rd
post #2 of 15
Is he skiing more conservatively? He's always saying he does not get much time to practice, so maybe that's cooling him off a bit?
post #3 of 15
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And after 59 skiers, Andrew Weibrecht (bib 53) skis into 10th place (!), and TJ Lanning (bib 59) DNF.
post #4 of 15
My notes:

- Looks like the race jury moved the start down to the combined start house - not surprising, given the ridge-top winds today in the Rockies.

- The top 20 were within 1.05 seconds of each other, which is really, really tight.

- Marco Sullivan's performance today is a marked difference from his Lake Louise podium spot. Perhaps the technical course got the best of him?

Preliminary results:

Preliminary Results - Mens World Cup DH - Beaver Creek, CO

1. Michael Walchhofer (AUT) 1:13.74
2. Steven Nyman (USA) +0.05
3. Didier Cuche (SUI) +0.10
4. Didier Defago (SUI) +0.19
5. Marco Beuchel (LIE) +0.20
6. Bode Miller (USA) +0.36
7. Peter Fill (ITA) +0.38
8. Mario Scheiber (AUT) +0.39
9. Kurt Sulzenbacher (ITA) +0.53
10. Andrew Weibrecht (USA) +0.54
. . .
11. Hermann Maier (AUT) +0.56
13. John Kucera (CAN) +0.74
15. Erik Guay (CAN) +0.80
17. Jan Hudec (CAN) +0.85
20. Scott McCartney (USA) +1.05
40. Marco Sullivan (USA) +2.01
41. Gareth Sine (CAN) +2.12
43. François Bourque (CAN) +2.18
47. Finlay Mickel (GBR) +2.83
50. Manuel Osbourne-Paradis (CAN) +4.20
DNF TJ Lanning (USA)
DNF Robbie Dixon (CAN)
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post
Bode Miller is picking up serious overall points on Svindal, Raich, Pallander, Hudec and Grange (who were the top 5 in overall points up until this race)
Exactly: it looks like he's going with a slow build into the race season, rather than an early flame-out (which is his usual style). Perhaps the pre-season back issue caused him to re-assess his season-long approach.

If so, I think he's on the right track.
post #6 of 15
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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
Exactly: it looks like [Bode Miller's] going with a slow build into the race season, rather than an early flame-out (which is his usual style). Perhaps the pre-season back issue caused him to re-assess his season-long approach.

If so, I think he's on the right track.
And the coverage on skiracing.com makes his result, only 0.36 back, even more impressive. He nearly fell coming out of the start and then actually ended up falling on the Talon turn, putting his hip on the snow:

Bode Miller survived a severe error high on the course that nearly pushed him off course and caused him to touch a hip to the snow to claim sixth just behind Marco Buechel of Liechtenstein.
"It's not a very good result for me here on this hill," said Miller who won here in 2004 and 2006 and finished second in 2005. "I almost fell on my head out of the start when my pole slipped… It was just bad luck. Usually I make a lot of time out of the start on these guys, so that cost me a lot. And then I go on my hip in the Talon turn. That's the end of your chances to win… I took huge risks after that and skied pretty well, but there's not a whole lot of time to try to pull the race back in."

His skiing (and risky line) must have been incredible to keep him in the top-ten hunt in a strong, tight field.

SfDean
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post

His skiing (and risky line) must have been incredible to keep him in the top-ten hunt in a strong, tight field.

SfDean

Thats Bode...if you have just one run to watch, his is the one. He'll either crash or win, sometimes both in the same run.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
10. Andrew Weibrecht (USA) +0.54
Great result for the NY kid. I remember being impressed by him when he was a JV/IV.

A cork or two will be popped at the Mirror Lake Inn, I would bet.
post #9 of 15
I cannot find any WC TV coverage in Ontario. This is ridiculous!!!
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by tief schnee View Post
Great result for the NY kid. I remember being impressed by him when he was a JV/IV.

A cork or two will be popped at the Mirror Lake Inn, I would bet.
Incredibly impressive skiing. Top ten, wearing bib 53, and he's only 22 years old. Two days ago he'd never had a World Cup point result. Today he's 37th in overall WC points.

Team USA men looks deeper than I've ever seen it. Five guys in the top 40 for overall WC points, four of them ranked ahead of Hermann Maier. Eight guys in the top 60 for overall WC points.

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/discipline...standings.html
post #11 of 15

Yep, and...

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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post
Incredibly impressive skiing. Top ten, wearing bib 53, and he's only 22 years old. Two days ago he'd never had a World Cup point result. Today he's 37th in overall WC points.

Team USA men looks deeper than I've ever seen it. Five guys in the top 40 for overall WC points, four of them ranked ahead of Hermann Maier. Eight guys in the top 60 for overall WC points.

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/discipline...standings.html
...there could be more greatness in store for the U. S. guys tomorrow. Big issue right now is the weather. We were training GS at Eldora today, and it looks really dark and nasty over toward BC...we'll see...
post #12 of 15
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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post
Team USA men looks deeper than I've ever seen it.
Hope they've got their SL figured out - they really struggled last season.

Weibrecht 14th and 10th in two days - fantastic. Cheers to the folks in Lake Placid!
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post
His skiing (and risky line) must have been incredible to keep him in the top-ten hunt in a strong, tight field.
Yeah, I kinda figured (in watching the FIS' live timing) that Bode did well on the split times after his hip check. And when he's in DH and SG, he can take the more risky line with less of a chance of going down. If he tries the same in SL (and somewhat in GS), he stands a greater chance of blowing out of the course.

If you want to look at the split times by section and racer, the PDF files are linked from this page. It's good reading. Stuff about Bode's run:

- Fastest speed through the trap (118.18 km/h).
- Second fastest between splits 1 and 2.

Other than that, his splits weren't anything to write home about, as the hip check scrubbed a lot of his momentum.

If you look at the splits, Walchhofer won it by skiing the top section the fastest (during his break in the weather). Nyman skied the middle and bottom faster than Walchhofer. Cuche and Defago aced the bottom portion of the course, but were slow up top. Weibrecht skied the mid-section faster than anyone, but lost a lot of speed on the bottom part of the course.

Like I said, it's good reading.
post #14 of 15
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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post
Hope they've got their SL figured out - they really struggled last season.
My guess is that Ligety is most of the USST's SL strategy for the season. His run in the Super Combi was fantastic, with room for even more speed. Jimmy Cochrane has a lot of potential, but we've yet to see what his season will look like, as a whole. Tim Kelley and Tom Rothrock may have something to offer, too. But really, it's Ligety and Cochrane who rule the roost for the USST right now in SL.

The USST is deeper in GS, though. Ligety is fast in GS, and Schlopy has seen success at Beaver Creek in years past (though I think he's past his prime). If Dane Spencer can find the speed he had before his injury, he could be an outside threat, though GS has advanced a bit since he was sidelined. Jake Zamansky has shown promise, and he could do well on home snow. Tim Jitloff and TJ Lanning also could vie for top-30, given the right circumstances. And Weibrecht looks like he could bring something to the table, as well, given his spectacular performance to this point (though his FIS points in GS aren't great).

And what of Bode? He's still great in GS - top-10 material any time he takes to the course. And he showed in the SC that he can still ski a decent SL, even if he looks a bit out of place in the quick turns these days. Ligety can smoke Bode in SL almost any day, and is essentially even with Bode in GS.

It's gonna be an interesting season.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
...there could be more greatness in store for the U. S. guys tomorrow. Big issue right now is the weather. We were training GS at Eldora today, and it looks really dark and nasty over toward BC...we'll see...
Yeah. The race stills showed serious snow coming down during their runs.

http://sports.yahoo.com/ski/photo?sl...c_b&prov=getty

And race coverage noted that Nyman, who finished only 0.05 seconds behind Walchhofer, ran during the worst of it, while Walchhofer got a short break in the weather. Looks like, SkiRacer55, you guys are in for more snow tomorrow and through the next week.

http://www.weather.com/outlook/recre...om=ski_profile

Now if we could just get some snow out here on the Sierra... If not, I may have to take you up on your offer and fly out to Colorado to make some turns.

SfDean.
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