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Would I be over my head at JH?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I consider myself a decent intermediate skier. For comparision, I ski all the blues and some easier blacks at Alta - just nothing too "bumped" up. My question is, would I be over my head at JH? Is there enough intermediate terrain (as described above) to keep me occupied for a couple days? Or, would I be better off at Grand Targhee?

Thanks in advance for your help.

Tim
post #2 of 20
Paging Bob Peters....

He'll tell you you'll be fine.
post #3 of 20
You'll be fine. JH is huge and has good stuff for everyone.
post #4 of 20
Till Bob chimes in, search the archives for his writeups on JH. He had two, one general and one for steeper stuff. Classics of the genre!

BTW - I agree good stuff for everyone.
post #5 of 20
I know there is a lot of good blue terrain from the top of the gondola, which is about 3000 feet of vertical right there. But I've never been to Jackson Hole, would an ambitious intermediate also be safe/comfortable most days descending from the summit via Rendezvous Bowl and Rendezvous Trail?
post #6 of 20
Both of you will be fine. Especially the OP, it's not like they will have a ton of expert terrain open next week.
post #7 of 20
plenty of stuff at JH to keep an intermediate busy. if you are an adventurous intermediate - even more.

I think a good intermediate can handle rendezvous bowl - on a clear day.
post #8 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks, all. I just read Bob's guide to JH's steeps. Great piece!

I appreciate the boost of confidence. I'm headed to SLC next week and if the snow's not there, I'm driving north to WY for a couple days.
post #9 of 20
having been to JH for the first time 2 seasons ago my take (and this is the simplified Cliff Notes version) was thus:

Advanced terrain was serviced off the Tram. That's looker's left of the mountain when standing at the base.

The more intermediatly inclined terrain was more or less looker's right of the mountain (mostly groomed and longer, intermediate/advanced runs).

This is not to say that there wasn't intermediate stuff off the Tram or Advanced stuff on the right, but if you just wanted a short analysis of the mountain, that's kind of how it panned out to me: Advanced/Gnarl on Looker's Left/Skier's Right; Beginner/Intermediate/Some Advanced Looker's Right/Skier's Left.

While not confined to blues I'm also not a hucker (no Corbet's for me, which when i was there for the final Tram ride, was a fairly low snow year) and I was there for 2 days solo. I spent Day 1 off the tram and Day 2 off on the other side. Had fun both days, but would have enjoyed the aid of somebody who knew the mountain and would have pointed me to some of the OB goods within reason.

That's my 2cents. Other'n that, I will defer to Bob Peters, since it's his mountain.
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by Marty View Post
plenty of stuff at JH to keep an intermediate busy. if you are an adventurous intermediate - even more.

I think a good intermediate can handle rendezvous bowl - on a clear day.
Agreed, I'm in the range of that skill level and on clear day I really enjoyed rendezvous bowl. A bit challenging and usually good snow conditions.

Now, on a foggy day (which I had one), it can be a pain and I wouldn't recommend it.
post #11 of 20
JH is great for an upper-intermediate skier. it's a mountain for experts, though, for sure. since you wouldn't be hitting half the mountain, you could probably find something that would be just as great an experience without spending as much $. JH is pretty remote and expensive; there's snowking in town (local hill) and Grand Targhee an hour over and around the pass. intermediate cruiser heaven there. again, JH has limited access (expensive flights) and it's a pretty expensive area overall.

still, you'll have a great time if you go- the scenery, skiing, and vibe is tops. though, i must concede that you could get a similar experience in more exotic locales for about the same or less $ (i.e. fernie, red mountain interior BC) or maybe even Big Mountain montana. or, perhaps PowMow- Powder Mountain, Utah- nothing super steep- but super huge area to ski and tons of snow (about as much as alta)- with, perhaps, the least crowds you can find anywhere. period.

just my .02- wherever you go, you'll have a blast!
post #12 of 20
I don't know how it affects the skiing, but i believe the tram is gone now.
post #13 of 20
Why not learn to ski in Pa? What's the point of traveling out west to ski the groomed runs? The groomed terrain in Pennsylvania is more challenging than the groomed terrain in Wyoming or Utah.

Get skills at the local hill, then go west to ski the powder!
post #14 of 20
Thread Starter 
I kinda, sorta already know how to ski a little. I'm already heading there next week but the snow is iffy in Utah. That's why I was asking about Wyoming.

"The groomed terrain in PA is more challenging than the groomed terrain in Wyoming or Utah?"

That's a riot...
post #15 of 20
No matter what your ability, I guarantee that JH will make you a better skier/boarder. Happened to me. I came back east and rocked. Well, relative to my own ability before.

Work the intermediate runs from skiers left to right, ie Apres Vous to Gros Ventre.

btw, I respectfully say to this quote, huh? Why do you say that, because of ice?
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
The groomed terrain in Pennsylvania is more challenging than the groomed terrain in Wyoming or Utah.
post #16 of 20
if you want good snow- Vermont is in better shape than most places out west (and needs less snowfall, generally to open terrain- not as rocky esp on intermediate trails)

plus, northern VT is looking to get upwards of 2ft in the next week- making for a good base for the early season. i'd head north, not west if you're going soon. unless things change drastically out there...
post #17 of 20
if you want good snow- Vermont is in better shape than most places out west (and needs less snowfall, generally to open terrain- not as rocky esp on intermediate trails)

plus, northern VT is looking to get upwards of 2ft in the next week- making for a good base for the early season. i'd head north, not west if you're going soon. unless things change drastically out there...
post #18 of 20
stuckinPA:

When are you thinking of coming here?

Our mountain does, as has been said above, have a LOT of really good terrain for an intermediate and slightly higher level skier. The issue is that a lot of it is not likely to be open before December 15 because our mountain opens in stages due to a lack of ticket-buying tourists prior to Christmas. Even in years where there is lots of snow, we normally don't open the top of the mountain until around Dec 20.

So, if you are coming in the next week or so, you're looking at very limited terrain. By the 9th, they MAY have the gondola open, and by the 16th they might have the Thunder and Sublette chairs open. Until all of those are open, our terrain is relatively limited.

If you saw my trip report in the Trip Reports forum, you'll know that Targhee has very good conditions right now. I skied off-piste almost the entire day today and only nicked a few rocks. Each little storm will just make Targhee better, so you can always look at that as a backup if JH doesn't come through.

And I agree with the comments above that a moderately good intermediate can have fun on Rendezvous Bowl if the visibility is good. It's a wonderful run and I've taken pretty low-end skiers down it when the conditions are good. If it's blizzarding or flat light and blowing hard, you don't want to be there unless you ski well by braille.

Have fun if you come here.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
Thanks, Bob. I'm flying into SLC next Saturday afternoon. I appreciate your info regarding the amount of terrain that will be open. Based on your info, I think I'll just stay in Driggs and hit GT for a couple days. I was hoping that LCC/BCC in Utah would have enough to keep me in that area for the 5 ski days that I have. It's looking more promising than it was last week, but still doesn't seem anywhere near as good as GT. I got a roundtrip ticket from Pittsburgh a couple months ago for only $218. I was planning on using Marriott points to stay in SLC and I'm getting a free rental from Hertz (points). Therefore, I'm not really worried about wasting a lot of money - the trip's not costing me much to begin with. It looks like there are decent rooms available near Driggs for well less than $100 (Teton Valley Cabins?). This is the only time I can get away from work so I'm committed to having a great time regardless of how far I have to drive.

I'd like to thank everyone for their info and input - Especially Bob, Bushwacker, SnowbirdDevotee and Maui Steve.

I hope to give a trip report of my travels - as long as my crappy old digital camera holds up.

Thanks again,
Tim
post #20 of 20
Have fun and each time you get off a chair and just reember to look around at the view.

Woflgang Langwische wrote the definitive text on flying a long time ago. When he was asked about why he does this (flying), his answer was beautifully simple ...

.... "To see ... "
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