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I got pointed to Asterpix recently and thought we might find uses for it around here... You can hotlink within video like this.
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I got pointed to Asterpix recently and thought we might find uses for it around here... You can hotlink within video like this.
That is over the top. That is just so cool. I know waves and that is beyond my imagination for taking a beating at the end. Oh the price we pay for thrills.

Thanks for that.
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That is not real.
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That is not real.
Who cares, it's still cool. I belongs in the lounge but way cool.
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That is not real.
Goto Youtube and type in Big Wave Surfing....it is very real...these guys thou are some of the best professional surfers in the world...they are not weekend warriors.
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Partly inspired by snowboarding (the idea of strapping on the surfboard). I was just watching the documentary of the history of the beginning of big wave surfing the other night. Some blond Hawaiian guy started it all. Described it as a team sport between the tow in guy, the surfer and the rescue guy.

Steve - the hotlink feature is cool, but there are much better ways to do video analysis.
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Partly inspired by snowboarding (the idea of strapping on the surfboard). I was just watching the documentary of the history of the beginning of big wave surfing the other night. Some blond Hawaiian guy started it all. Described it as a team sport between the tow in guy, the surfer and the rescue guy.

Steve - the hotlink feature is cool, but there are much better ways to do video analysis.
I think that is the other way around....surfing has been around alot longer then snowboarding! I think the foot strap idea comes from Windsurfing.
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I found the hot link boxes to be an annoyance.
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That is one big wave. Not so sure about the beating; water is a lot softer when it ain't frozen though, that is as long as you're not being dumped into two feet of shallow( rocks are hard):.
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That is one big wave. Not so sure about the beating; water is a lot softer when it ain't frozen though, that is as long as you're not being dumped into two feet of shallow( rocks are hard):.
Give surfing a go....you would be surprised how hard that stuff is
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I found the hot link boxes to be an annoyance.
Can't you see some interesting uses for it, especially when we are trying to communicate something about a particular video? I thought it was interesting technology for our use here, which is why I posted about it where I did. The only example that I knew about was the surfing one, so I choose to use it. The point was the video linking technology, though.
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Can't you see some interesting uses for it, especially when we are trying to communicate something about a particular video? I thought it was interesting technology for our use here, which is why I posted about it where I did. The only example that I knew about was the surfing one, so I choose to use it. The point was the video linking technology, though.
Yes I certainly can see some interesting uses for it. I just think that there are better ways to do it that than having the subject boxed in. You could have icons appear anywhere on the screen.

In the case of ski instruction or motion analysis it might work to have a call out or, ok, even a box, say around the skier's feet if there was some commentary on footwork... or around the torso if you were highlighting upper body positioning, etc.

Did anyone click on the box to link to the interview?
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That is one big wave. Not so sure about the beating; water is a lot softer when it ain't frozen though, that is as long as you're not being dumped into two feet of shallow( rocks are hard):.
Not much of a surfer and would never attempt a wave even 1/2 that size, but having been pounded and put through the wash cycle by a few 10 - 12 footers I can tell you it ain't no picnic. Best thing to do, all you can do, is hold your breath, relax, and wait for it to spit you out.
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I think that is the other way around....surfing has been around alot longer then snowboarding! I think the foot strap idea comes from Windsurfing.
The comment was straight from the documentary. It was a direct quote from Laird Hamilton and specific to the beginnings of big wave surfing.
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That is one big wave. Not so sure about the beating; water is a lot softer when it ain't frozen though, that is as long as you're not being dumped into two feet of shallow( rocks are hard):.
I've body surfed and been pinned on the bottom and crushed by 10 footers. The pressure holding you on the bottom is unbelievable. Getting ragdolled isn't pretty either. I've also been knocked unconscious from hitting the water while water skiing. Consider the squaring effect of additional height on speed/force, the power of a 60 foot wave is beyond my comprehension. Consider jumping off of a 6 story building as a comparison. One gallon of water weighs 8 pounds. How many thousands of gallons of water are going to land on you from a 60 foot wave? That's four tons of weight for every thousand gallons of water before you factor in any speed. You're not likely to catch the full force of the wave on a fall, but 1/2 or 1/10th the full force is still going to be a big punishing number.
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Yes I certainly can see some interesting uses for it. I just think that there are better ways to do it that than having the subject boxed in. You could have icons appear anywhere on the screen.

In the case of ski instruction or motion analysis it might work to have a call out or, ok, even a box, say around the skier's feet if there was some commentary on footwork... or around the torso if you were highlighting upper body positioning, etc.

Did anyone click on the box to link to the interview?
I agree, crank. However, this is the first company to create technology that allows you to do this kind of thing with Internet-based video like this. For that reason alone I thought it was worth posting here for discussion... It's certainly not a complete idea, but it's a great start, I think...
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The comment was straight from the documentary. It was a direct quote from Laird Hamilton and specific to the beginnings of big wave surfing.
I know Laird from back in my windsurfing years.... cool guy and he must be among the most fit guys Ive ever encountered. In Lairds case Im pritty sure he got the footstrap ide from windsurfing although footstraps got popular on snowboards and windsurfing boards about the same time. If Im not remembering incorrectly he did it in order to jump loops on wave riding boards. I saw a video were he tested the first prototypes back in the mid 90s.

ssh, thanks for posting the video. I think its a great ide to incorporate into skiing education and demo material. Somehow this thread derailed into surfing (wonder why, such an stupid sport )... anyway, we could have proper explanations of particular movements and pinnpoint where and how we use them out on the slope.
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I know Laird from back in my windsurfing years.... cool guy and he must be among the most fit guys Ive ever encountered. In Lairds case Im pritty sure he got the footstrap ide from windsurfing although footstraps got popular on snowboards and windsurfing boards about the same time.
Ahem. Let me be perfectly clear about this. This came directly from what Laird said in the movie. It wasn't just the footstraps, it was the similarity between snowboarding and big wave surfing. According to the movie Laird had been windsurfing before he was riding and the lightbulb went off.

So sports fans, your options are:
Curtain #1 - You can be pretty sure you're right.
Curtain #2 - You can watch Riding Giants and find out for totally sure.
Curtain #3 - You can just trust that your old Uncle Rusty has not gone totally senile, ... yet.
Curtain #4 - You can drag daddy Laird out of the nursery and ask him straight up.

In the meantime I'm going to look for some equine relief...
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Originally Posted by ssh View Post
I agree, crank. However, this is the first company to create technology that allows you to do this kind of thing with Internet-based video like this. For that reason alone I thought it was worth posting here for discussion... It's certainly not a complete idea, but it's a great start, I think...
It's thought provoking to be sure. With enough enough time, strong coffee, and a comfortable rubber room, an app like this could really be spiffed up into a dynamite teaching tool.

For example, when you moused over a highlight box, instead of pausing and redirecting to a commentary page in a new browser window or tab, the main video would keep going, but you would also get
  1. some commentary or critique on the currently highlighted technique or conditions; or
  2. a zoomed-in or slo-moed version of the currently highlighted part of the video; or
  3. both of the above
...and all without pausing the main video. You could probably show the highlights in another video cell that ran concurrently with the main video. Hmmm, sounds like a Silverlight killer app....
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