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post #31 of 43
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Originally Posted by mmaviator View Post

anyone care to comment on Look px 12 and Maker Giffon demo bindings? Or link where I can read about reviews on them?

 

The Look PX Demo is heavy and the Marker Griffon demo is about as close to a retail binding as any flat mount demo. 

post #32 of 43

It's amusing to read this thread, which started in '07 and also been revisited over several years. Who would have thought back then that Philpug and SierraJim would be working in the same shop in Tahoe. 

 

I fully agree that demo bindings have come a long way in 6 seasons, and, some modern ones are excellent. Only caveat is that some, like the Marker Griffon (which I use), need a wider ski. The Fisher/Head Powerrail system is great for a narrow ski.

post #33 of 43

The griff' is fine to at least a 78 but good point. It does depend on what ski you are putting them and how they are going to be used,  but that wasn't really the question

post #34 of 43

looking at putting them on a 110 waist ski and the binding would be new. anyways thanks for the info/thoughts

post #35 of 43
I'd be surprised if anybody responds to my question, but I'll give it a shot. I'm not a legendary skier, but I can do most runs at my local ski resorts, aggressive but not intensely aggressive. I've been looking at a pair of skis that include a pair of Marker Fastrak 2 10.0 bindings, which are "demo" bindings, attached to the plate. I haven't been able to find much if any information regarding this specific binding, so my question is: Would these hold up with an aggressive recreational freerider?

http://www.the-house.com/8953k2stkmf212zz-k2-ski-packages.html
post #36 of 43

FWIW, I've purchased several skis with demo bindings in the past, never had any issues.  I even have an old pair of metal 957 Equipe demo bindings that I would consider mounting.

 

I have used several pairs of Salomon 12ti demos, and have experience with Tyrolia SP120's.

 

As far as I'm concerned, a good high din demo binding is a poor man's jester schizo.

post #37 of 43
Was that in response to me? If so, then thank you for your response. I've heard good things about demo bindings, but I've also heard some major cons as well. I can't find info about these specific bindings, which worries me, but Marker has proved to provide acceptable products, so I guess I'll take the plunge. I just hope that they don't snap on me when I'm carving...
post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by MIdownhill View Post

Was that in response to me? If so, then thank you for your response. I've heard good things about demo bindings, but I've also heard some major cons as well. I can't find info about these specific bindings, which worries me, but Marker has proved to provide acceptable products, so I guess I'll take the plunge. I just hope that they don't snap on me when I'm carving..., 

 

My belief is that your bindings are the Marker 10.0 toe and heel adopted to adjustable demo track. From a binding performance aspect, they should be fine. They are not the high performance Markers, more in the value class. You can find info on Markers website about the basic 10.0 binding. You see them on the hill very frequently, just not on high end equipment.

post #39 of 43
So what you're saying is that they are medium, not low-quality, but not as high-quality as the higher end bindings?
post #40 of 43
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Originally Posted by MIdownhill View Post

So what you're saying is that they are medium, not low-quality, but not as high-quality as the higher end bindings?

 

I'm not a binding expert, and, I don't want to imply that they are inadequate for normal skiing. I would not hesitate ski on the Marker 10's, but, all things being equal, I purchase bindings from the higher end of the Marker line. Read what you want into that statement, I don't think that Marker would put a sub-standard binding on the marketplace. Many here write that all bindings are, more or less, functionally the same. Most binding manufactures have a binding line that is less expensive. It's your call with respect to what you are comfortable with. Are they any different or less than adequate from lower price bindings from Look, Fischer or Solly, I sure don't know.

post #41 of 43

btw I ended up with the Maker Jester demo. So far so good and will post something later at the end of the season if I have any issues.

post #42 of 43

I have been putting demo bindings on my skis for years.  I find that adjusting my boot position fore and aft on the ski is very useful for different snow conditions.  In heavy powder, I pull the bindings back two clicks to reduce pressure on the front of the skis, enabling me to maintain a more forward upright stance as opposed to having to leaning back to keep the ski tips from diving under the heavy snow.  On fast hard bumps, I move the bindings forward for faster turn initiation.  Some manufacturers offered (and may still offer) non-demo bindings that have this feature (i.e. Atomic).  It really works.  There is nothing worse than being locked into a fixed position on the ski that is either too far forward or back and no way to adjust it without re-drilling.  You would be surprised how much a centimeter or two difference in binding position can make in ski performance.

post #43 of 43

I have and ski both and I don't really notice any big difference that I could attribute to the bindings.  They are in decent condition, I wouldn't trust beat up rental crap.  I like that I can easily let friends try my skis.  It may be significant that the people I have met that really despise rental bindings are better skiers than I am :)

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