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Looking for new ski - replace Fischer Big Stix 7.6 185cm

post #1 of 14
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I had a pair of Fischer Big Stix, 76mm under foot - 185cm - from circa 2002/3(?) I loved em. Loved em! Really cut my teeth on them:. I moved to Park City, UT last winter for a season and wore them out. The mounting for the binding stripped out of the ski. Helicoil didn't help, ski had to be remounted .5" forward. I didn't have the cash to buy new skis at the time, and there was only about 20 days of **** spring left (remember how bad it was last year) I am looking for a similar ski, maybe a tad bit quicker, but I really loved my ability to just point them down hill and go. That ski never got squirrelly.

Of note, I'm 6'1", 250ish, I ski double blues to blacks - some double blacks if it's powder - doing more trees then when I bought them and defiantly felt limited by that ski in that respect. However I have unfortunatly had to move back east and am currently back at home in Bloomington, IN - I still plan on going back to UT once a year for 5-10 days, coupled with aproximately 10-20 days here, weather and schedule permitting. I tried the Rosi B2, B3, & Radical through my buddies at the demo shack last season - not in love with any of them. The radicals were fun depending on the condition but I think it was just the change of pace from my usual boards that gave that feeling rather than true enjoyment.

Any help narrowing my search would be great.
post #2 of 14
I loved my BigStix 7.6 it was a classic mid-fat that was light, stiff, and a great carver.

If you want to stick with the classic midfat I thought the Atomic M11 B5 had a similar performance range but more refined feel and better stability (not ure it is available in a length you could use though). Also look at the Nordica Top Fuel or Nitrous as similar type midfat skis. The Head IM78 or IM82 might also be worth a look. If you choose to go wider virtually every ski brand has a stiffer all mountain ski in a 80-90mm width range.
post #3 of 14
Without knowing your price range, if you loved the 7.6, you should drop SierraJim a line -- I think he has a pair of 8.6s that he wants to unload.
post #4 of 14
Why not new Fischer AMC series, which is the successor to BigStix?

AMC 76 = 76 mm ski, but shorter radius than the BigStix 7.6 -- dimensions = 120/76/106 (16m), comes in 182cm length.

or AMC 79 = 79 mm ski, slightly wider and a little less side cut; dimensions = -- 116/79/104 (18m), also comes in 182 cm.

For reference BigStix 7.6 dimensions = 115/76/100.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by KennyG View Post

Of note, I'm 6'1", 250ish, I ski double blues to blacks - some double blacks if it's powder - doing more trees then when I bought them and defiantly felt limited by that ski in that respect. However I have unfortunatly had to move back east and am currently back at home in Bloomington, IN - I still plan on going back to UT once a year for 5-10 days, coupled with aproximately 10-20 days here, weather and schedule permitting. I tried the Rosi B2, B3, & Radical through my buddies at the demo shack last season - not in love with any of them. The radicals were fun depending on the condition but I think it was just the change of pace from my usual boards that gave that feeling rather than true enjoyment.

Any help narrowing my search would be great.
Consider the Fischer Watea 84.

Michael
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
I had such an unsavory experience with the way the fischer's broke that I would have a very hard time justifying paying them more money. Is it natural for bindings to just rip out of a ski? Also for their construction to just generally prevent the use of a helicoil?
post #7 of 14
Those bigstix are a carbon composite foam core. You weigh 250lbs. The ski is 4 years old. You rode them hard last season. It sounds to me like you got your moneys worth.
post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by KennyG View Post
Is it natural for bindings to just rip out of a ski?
I don't know that I'd call it "natural." But when said bindings attach said skis to a 250-pounder who says he likes "to just point them down hill and go," it's not exactly outside the spectrum of anticipated results.

That said, the failure could be due to an improper install, either initially or with the helicoil, rather than improper construction. And if there's any defect, it might be limited to the specific ski.

Personally, I find that by buying most of my skis used, I don't worry about it so much.


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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
FWIW the bigstix had sort of a reputation for not being the most durable skis.
I believe that rep was primarily for the prior generation -- the 75 and 84, rather than the 7.6 and 8.6. And the primary reported problem was delams, not permanent binding releases.

(For the record, I ski 2002 Big Stix 84s.)
post #9 of 14
I replaced mine with PE's.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
I believe that rep was primarily for the prior generation -- the 75 and 84, rather than the 7.6 and 8.6. And the primary reported problem was delams, not permanent binding releases.

(For the record, I ski 2002 Big Stix 84s.)

Don't know which generation it was for... but your right they were supposed to be delams. My 7.6 I skied on 3 years never had an issue with it in anyway.
post #11 of 14
I should also add that my 2002 186 Big Stix 84s have been drilled thrice and skied hard, and continue to perform amazingly well. Could be a pair-by-pair variation question as much as anything.
post #12 of 14
I'm coming up on year 3 or 4 with the 7.6, probably 30 or 40 days total (quiver ski not the used every day, but the default "do it all" ski) - no issue at all. But I'm lighter (170 lbs).

FWIW new Fischers all seem to use a railflex system so the binding mount is totally different from the bigstix that failed for the OP.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by ts01 View Post
FWIW new Fischers all seem to use a railflex system so the binding mount is totally different from the bigstix that failed for the OP.
True for the AMC series, but not for the Maori series (e.g., the Watea).
post #14 of 14
I would check out the AMC or Watea models. Also the Head iM77 or 78.

I'm selling some 184cm Elan M666 mid-fats, 76mm waist, if you're interested. $250 with integrated bindings. They are 2005 skis.

The suggestion to look at the PE is also good, though it probably won't have the same feel as the other mid-fats.
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