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One more ski...08 legend 8000

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Searched the forum on reviews for the new 08 Legend 8000 and could not find anything. If anyone has spent any time on this ski I would love to hear what they think.
post #2 of 14
It has been tweaked a bit from previous years' models but not too significantly. Searching for previous 8000 reviews will help. There should be lots of info.
post #3 of 14
I tend to agree with the previous post. When I needed to replace my Dynastar ATV 4x4s, I tried a lot of different skis and wound up with Dynastar Legend 8000s. Must be something about the family feel of a given manufacturer. Whatever it was, I liked it. So I would be very surprised if the skiing feel would be changed much in any given year.
post #4 of 14
What have you found on ANY '08 ski? :
post #5 of 14
I am a devoted Legend 8k rider. Sold my last years version to get this years 08 version b/c I wanted to go with a longer ski. I am know on the 184s. The shovel is a smidge wider which should help to initiate turns slightly faster. I believe the turning radius for this years 184 is the same radius as last years 178...around 20m.

Some knock the 8k for not being hard-core enough but I think it provides a smooth and nimble ride and I also think it does very well in the bumps. It is not a huge POW ski but floats fine in all but the deepest stuff unless you are extremely heavy. If you accept the premise that all skis are about compromises and trade-offs, then you understand now ski does everything perfectly. For my money, it does most everything very well which is what I'm looking for. That said, I have a quiver and own a couple of skis that are wider in case the snow gets extremely deep.

I am also curious what folks would say is the closest competitor to the 8k. Is it the Head IM 82...Watea 84...I'd like to ride a couple of the skis that appeal to the same niche and see if there is anything that I like better. Thoughts?
post #6 of 14
The changes to the current 8K are not dramatic but they are worthwhile. The wider tip now gives the ski a deeper shape and a little more utility as an on trail carver. The simple wood/metal layup has not changed for years but it hasn't needed to. This is one of those classic skis that has comfortably filled a market niche for years. If the 8K had the nameplate of one of the bigger marketing brands, it could well be in the sales category of one of the all time best sellers.

SJ
post #7 of 14
re:

I am also curious what folks would say is the closest competitor to the 8k. Is it the Head IM 82...Watea 84...I'd like to ride a couple of the skis that appeal to the same niche and see if there is anything that I like better. Thoughts? __________________

I'd be interested in similar skis also. I feel the 8K is a wide GS. I'd like
to find something similar with more of a slalom feel. Maybe a little less
metal and a little more wood/fiberglass. Any comparisons with the Stockli
XL and XXL would be appreciated.

Tom
post #8 of 14
I have commented before on this but it probably bears repeating. The Watea 84 is a very worthy comparison to the 8K. The Watea does not have the metal that the 8K does and is maybe a little turnier. It is not quite the crud blaster that the 8K is and it is not quite as stiff torsionally but it might be a little more nimble despite the greater width. Both are very good skis. FWIW....I did not think that the Watea 78 was in the same ballpark as the 84 and the 8K.

SJ
post #9 of 14
Thanks SJ....I was thinking that it would be a close comparison....how about the Head Monster Im 78? My understanding is that it is a stiffer ride than the Legend 8k but has similar dimensions and shape. It seems to get a lot positive pub.
post #10 of 14
I think that one comes down to preferences. I personally do not prefer the stiffest or most agressive skis within any shape category....that's just me. I like sorta medium stuff. Those who do prefer more agressive skis may well prefer the Head. I have skied the 82, the 88 and the older 77....all were stiffer than what I like....YMMV.

SJ
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by t1henderson View Post
re:

I'd be interested in similar skis also. I feel the 8K is a wide GS. I'd like
to find something similar with more of a slalom feel. Maybe a little less
metal and a little more wood/fiberglass. Any comparisons with the Stockli
XL and XXL would be appreciated.

Tom
I can't answer this at the moment as I won't be skiing again until mid February (well our ski season did finish 6 weeks ago), but I should have a fair idea then. I have the Stormrider XL @ 174 (1 year old), the XXL @ 178cm and have just acquired a 2 yo Legend 8800 at 188 cm.

The XL is definately like a GS ski. Very smooth, can be finessed, best at speed, but not as bad slow as some suggest. Is a blast on piste and in boot deep.

The XXL is just a bigger version of the XL. A bit stiffer (but very progressive), like speed and big sweeping turns. Have skied it in up to knee deep untracked (made me sing). Bashes through crud and sastrugi without deflection. Hold well on boiler plate. Have this mounted as an AT, and have just swapped Freeride + for Dukes.

Legend 8800, well cannot comment yet. Have mounted this as an alpine setup (Solly Z12, no plate) and will take this and XXLs to Gulmarg. But I like the feel. Seems a little lighter than the XXL, but the flex seems nice and smooth.
post #12 of 14
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I skied the 8800 and 8000 last year, liked both because of their edge hold, skiing through crud and all around versatility. the thing I did not like was it took more energy to get them on edge due to their lack of side cut. I demoed the B3 before I demoed the 8000/8800 and loved how easy it was to get on edge, the only gripe on the B3 was it's lack of edge hold when you really pushed the ski. I am very intrigued by the Mythos and 8000 because this year they have both been given wider tips which I think would make the ski easier to get on edge and provide a little bit tighter radius turn. I am looking for the almost perfect one quiver ski and think this could be the one, if the wider tip has changed the way the 07 8000 skied last year.
post #13 of 14
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I....the thing I did not like was it took more energy to get them on edge due to their lack of side cut......
Which is why I like the Stockli Stormrider XL & XXL and why I probably like the 8800. I own the Volkl AC3 and have owned the AC4. Both Volkls have a more lot sidecut compared to the Stormriders. But my experience is the Stormriders are more versatile, accepting more finesse , different turn shapes and styles, whereas the Volkls simply want to be put on edge and ride the sidecut.
post #14 of 14
A lot of insightful posts here about the Legend 8000, my favorite all-around ski. As duly noted, you do have to work more to put it on edge than a ski with more sidecut. That also means that it is less "nervous" than skis with more sidecut. I personally don't like a ski that has to be turning constantly to feel stable or that wants to turn when I don't want to. The bottom line is that it just comes down to personal preference.
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