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post #31 of 78

Men's BC Super Combined standings so far, SL underway...

...Bode 4th, Ligety 9th...
post #32 of 78
Bode's in 5th after the DH portion of the Super Combined - he appears to be in a very strong scoring position for tomorrow's SL run -

http://www.fis-ski.com/pdf/2008/AL/0...AL0113SLR2.pdf

Head had 1,5,7,9 in today's leg. The skis are rolling for sure - oh by the way Nix, Bode won an overall WC SG tiltle on Head last season, as well as Cuche winning the DH title.
post #33 of 78
They run the sl the same day. Bode skied a mediocre sl run but finished, and finished 4th, gaining a pile of points on other all-round skiers.
post #34 of 78

SPOILER--Miller's SC results

Actually, per the FIS Web site, Miller was third in the downhill portion, only 18 100ths of a second back from Didier Cuche's first place finish, and 23 100ths up on the next fastest skier. Andrew Weibrecht was 7th (!) and TJ Lanning was 12th in the DH:

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/610.ht...L&raceid=50333

Miller actually finished the slalom with on OK time (which is better than every super combined he was in all last year.) Ligety absolutely ripped on the slalom portion, going from 29th in the DH, more than 2.3 seconds off the pace, to finish eighth (going from 23 places behind Benni Raich to 21 places ahead--and Raich is pretty consistently good in slalom.)

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/610.ht...L&raceid=50337

Bode Miller's finish fourth overall in the combined is pretty good for a guy who was 133rd in the world in slalom points and 22nd in super combined--

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/613.ht.../604/613.html?

Notably, TJ Lanning hung on to tenth and Andrew Weibrecht hung on to 14th in the super combined. I'd bet the US has NEVER gotten four top 15 finishers in the men's super combined before. (I'd guess the US has never gotten four men finishing in the points in a super combined before.)

A good day for Bode Miller, showing strength in two events, and an encouraging emphasis on finishing the slalom leg after a strong start--and a great day for the US.
post #35 of 78

Okay, I was wrong...

...Bode didn't win the super combi, he was "only" fourth...remember, you heard it here first...I predicted a win for Bode in the DH tomorrow...
post #36 of 78
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
...Bode didn't win the super combi, he was "only" fourth...remember, you heard it here first...I predicted a win for Bode in the DH tomorrow...
If we could vote to make it happen, I'd vote yes.

Tomorrow could be a great day for the US in the DH. Today there were 3 U.S. skiers in the top 15 of the DH, and that didn't include Steven Nyman who won Tuesday's training run at BC and Marco Sullivan, who won the first DH of the season at Lake Louis.

Go Bode!
post #37 of 78
Why was Ligety so far out after the DH leg? I would've expected a much more competitive run from him.
post #38 of 78
Does anyone know if Worm is gonna race the DH?
post #39 of 78

Modern SL. Bode today in the SC at Beaver Creek. Amazing how much speed with that much direction change. Nice shot.
post #40 of 78
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Why was Ligety so far out after the DH leg? I would've expected a much more competitive run from him.
On skiracing.com they quote him as saying something like, "pretty good for only having the DH skis on for the second time in two months..."

http://www.skiracing.com/index.php?o...815&Ite mid=2

Probably a little exaggeration, but I'm sure they'e had him concentrating on the technical events, where he's the best threat of the (mainstream) USST. There really aren't that many super combned races*, and it looks like Nyman, Sullivan, Weibrecht and Lanning could all be threats in DH this year.

SfDean

*Although, geez. Won the gold in the Olympics. Maybe get the guy a pair of longboards and a training lane, yes?
post #41 of 78
...And it was a pretty tough downhill for non-downhill specialists:

1. Birds of Prey is a serious downhill.
2. Snow conditions (limited snow) meant every bump and roller really counted.
3. They only got one day of training runs (not two) because of weather issues.

All of which would make it tough on non-downhill specialists, even aside from the mental issue of knowing that two days earlier that pretty fair skier Svindal just about gave himself a new outlet for his colon with a 70 mph sharp ski edge.*

SfDean


*(US Head coach shaking his head on the sidelines: "To think of all the times I wanted to rip Bode Miller a new one...")
post #42 of 78
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...And it was a pretty tough downhill for non-downhill specialists:

1. Birds of Prey is a serious downhill.

SfDean
Only 520m for the combined. Nah. Ligety's not a puss. His gold came in combined because he CAN ski with the boys in DH. Not prepared for the first SC? He's pissed.
post #43 of 78
Don't look now, but Mr Miller seems to be in point-collecting mode. Fourth in a combined? That's huge for Bode, given how much he's sucked in slalom the last couple of years.
post #44 of 78
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Don't look now, but Mr Miller seems to be in point-collecting mode. Fourth in a combined? That's huge for Bode, given how much he's sucked in slalom the last couple of years.
Yeah, and watching his run you could see that Bode wasn't taking the gonzo line he usually would in SL - yet he finished only a second or so behind the run winner, Grand (FRA). And he made a few mistakes in transition during the SL which hurt his speed on the flat sections of the course, so he has the potential for more.

But I think the suspicions are right: Bode's taking it easy, collecting points. And he put some good distance between himself and Raich, whose spinout-hike in the SL was very damaging.

One other thing to consider: in past seasons, Bode has been en fuego in the first month of the season, then has burned out come mid-January or early-February. I think that he may be pacing himself better this year, which would be to his advantage for the overall and for amassing victories throughout the season.
post #45 of 78
Thread Starter 
Sounds like he was using those double thickness "Beefy" SL skis.
post #46 of 78
He is the only skier on tour to have scored in all disciplines this season.
post #47 of 78
Barring big mistakes, I bet Bode Miller's point totals for the overall look great after this weekend:

Svindal isn't racing, it was Raich (not Miller) who had to hike to make a gate in the slalom of the combined, Cuche and Hudec don't ski slalom, and Pallander doesn't ski SG.

By the end of this weekend, I predict that the top three in points for the overall will be Miller, Svindal and Raich (not necessarily in that order, but we Miller fans can hope...) and I'd expect Ligety to move up, as well, with two technical races and a SG still to come.

(The wild card, though, is slalom--lots of skiers, including strong ones, might not finish.)
post #48 of 78
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Originally Posted by sfdean View Post
By the end of this weekend, I predict that the top three in points for the overall will be Miller, Svindal and Raich (not necessarily in that order, but we Miller fans can hope...) and I'd expect Ligety to move up, as well, with two technical races and a SG still to come.
Actually, it's just one tech race - a GS - and a SG. The only SL at Beaver Creek this weekend happened in the Super Combined.

Still, looks good for Miller and Ligety. Raich is no slouch in SG or GS, though, and Cuche can do well in both, as well.
post #49 of 78
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Originally Posted by songfta View Post
Actually, it's just one tech race - a GS - and a SG. The only SL at Beaver Creek this weekend happened in the Super Combined.

Still, looks good for Miller and Ligety. Raich is no slouch in SG or GS, though, and Cuche can do well in both, as well.
Right you are, on all counts. The SG is postponed until Monday because of weather. We'll see if Bode can keep the waxed side down in SG...
post #50 of 78
Wicked aggressive line for Bode in the 1st run of GS today. Holy smoke! He got bit at the bottom of the pitch which tightened each turn. Extremely aggressive line. Didn't catch his split - my guess he was fast.
post #51 of 78
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Wicked aggressive line for Bode in the 1st run of GS today. Holy smoke! He got bit at the bottom of the pitch which tightened each turn. Extremely aggressive line. Didn't catch his split - my guess he was fast.
Well, he was fast until just after Golden Eagle, where he got inside and slid out a bit, then got late, and missed a gate. He whirled around and got back into the course, but he had no chance of getting anything more than a good training run out of the rest of the course. His run time was over 10 seconds behind Cuche, who won the run.
post #52 of 78
too bad about Svindal....
post #53 of 78
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Originally Posted by whygimf View Post
Wicked aggressive line for Bode in the 1st run of GS today. Holy smoke! He got bit at the bottom of the pitch which tightened each turn. Extremely aggressive line. Didn't catch his split - my guess he was fast.
He was fastest in the first split by around 0.2 seconds and he was hauling ass going into the golden eagle pitch where he blew out. I was hoping to see more than 1/3 of a run from him, but being a Bode fan you learn to take the blowouts in stride.
post #54 of 78
It'll be interesting to see how Bode does in today's Super-G. He's skiing 21st (Nyman 28th, McCartney 30th, Ligety 31st, Lanning 50th, and Weibrecht 54th, and they're already under way.)

http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/liveonline/alpineskiing.html
post #55 of 78
SPOILER (of sorts):

Just watched his run on WCSN. He looked late, passive, and off his game. He was simply riding his skis through many of the turns, and didn't look to be taking risks. Perhaps it's self-preservation mode, perhaps not.

The guys who are skiing fast today are taking ballsy lines - namely the Austrians, who are currently ruling the race.
post #56 of 78
Here's SkiRacing's bit on Bode's SG race today:

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Bode Miller ripped an edge off his ski and had no chance. "It just folded the edge over the front half of the ski. … There was like nothing there." He said he basically skied the rest of the course on one ski. He continued on for the final Cup point in 30th place.
post #57 of 78
hasn't he ripped edges out before? seems pretty uncommon for WC?
post #58 of 78
Thread Starter 
He hit a rock and wrecked the ski.
post #59 of 78

Actually, it happens all the time...

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hasn't he ripped edges out before? seems pretty uncommon for WC?
...in fact, it happened to Bode in the Olympic GS in Torino...
post #60 of 78
so that would be it happens to bode all the time...
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