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07 PE review by a volkl die hard

post #1 of 35
Thread Starter 
Me: 5'10" 204# very aggressive skier. I ski all terrain especially bumps and jumps.
I have the 179 PE's mounted with look px 12 jib and mounted +4cm.
Conditions were man made powder, bumps, groomed and ice.

First impression was quickness(they ski short). Very quick in short turns. I'm not sure if it was due to the forward mount? This is my first time with a forward mount on any ski. Second was I could feel the increased tail. Neither good or bad just a little different.
Third impression was edge hold and stability on ice and crud/junky snow! Very confidence inspiring.

This is just a fun stable ski that you can totally rely on! Jumps, bumps ice groomed really really fun ski! It has a perfect combination of energy and stability. I cannot explain just how much I love this ski. I was skeptical for many reasons. I'm a Volkl die hard, I've just grown to trust their skis and edge hold. I'd take this ski anywhere!!
I couldn't find any type of terrain I wouldn't love skiing this ski all day.

I'm so impressed!! And only paid 187.00 on steep and cheap!!

Mantras are in the closet for a while now till we get dumped on. These compare very well to the Mantras and are less than half the price I paid and a third of what you may pay.

Grade: A+
post #2 of 35
The shortness is for sure do to the forward mount. but even mine seems to be great in short turns.

The ski is like having pair of bunny rabbits on crack on your feet, yet its still damp and has great edge hold on sheer ice not to mention hardpack.

I cant speak for your +4 mounted Pe but comparing my pair(mounted at the freeride line) to my mantra I actaully prefer my PEs in powder over my mantras especially in trees and powder bumps.
post #3 of 35
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"I cant speak for your +4 mounted Pe but comparing my pair(mounted at the freeride line) to my mantra I actaully prefer my PEs in powder over my mantras especially in trees and powder bumps."[/quote]

I'd like to do a few runs of each to decide. Very close. Mantras are very quick to me as well. We didn't have too much powder but I can tell they will be amazing in powder.
For me, a Volkl guy, the PE's have completely changed my mind on how I buy skis and what works for me. I couldn't have been more impressed. I'm on the look out for more. Wish loaded up on Steep nd cheap.
post #4 of 35
on my short list of skis to demo this year
post #5 of 35
Yep, they are great skis. Nice review!
post #6 of 35
My son has a pair of these in 179. Last weekend as we were getting off the chair he offered to switch skis with me as I was on my new Nordica Afterburners (178). I had skied the PEs once before but it was interesting going back to back with a similar mid-80s ski. The PEs were much more willing to pivot and turn quickly although the AB turn plenty fast enough. I thought the PEs were a little less stable at higher speed and didn't hold a carve quite as well. I guess because of the low price I always thought they were less of a ski, they're not. After a little while I realized I would be happy to own a pair. When we changed back he said he liked them better than the AB, but did comment about the AB's better stability.
post #7 of 35
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Originally Posted by stevesmith7 View Post
My son has a pair of these in 179. Last weekend as we were getting off the chair he offered to switch skis with me as I was on my new Nordica Afterburners (178). I had skied the PEs once before but it was interesting going back to back with a similar mid-80s ski. The PEs were much more willing to pivot and turn quickly although the AB turn plenty fast enough. I thought the PEs were a little less stable at higher speed and didn't hold a carve quite as well. I guess because of the low price I always thought they were less of a ski, they're not. After a little while I realized I would be happy to own a pair. When we changed back he said he liked them better than the AB, but did comment about the AB's better stability.
I agree with the lower price thing and will also add that they aren't reviewed in a lot of the major magazines for some reason. But you see them all over the mountain and everyone I talk to loves them as an all mountain ride that can do a whole lot more!!
post #8 of 35
What does "PE" stand for? I know its a ski but can't figure out what the abbreviation stands for.
post #9 of 35
PE= Public Enemy
post #10 of 35
awww if i could find some 179 PE's for $187 : i would be stoked. anyone know where i could get the best deal on a pair?
post #11 of 35

PE Binding Choice

Just grabbed a pair of these on SAC. So the question is binding choice. I've got a new pair of PX-12 Lifters on the closet shelf. If I get the wide brake for these, this ought to be a good choice ?
post #12 of 35
ptg: Go to www.steepandcheap.com. Right now.

greg: PX12 lifters will be fine.
post #13 of 35
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Originally Posted by pea tear griffen View Post
awww if i could find some 179 PE's for $187 : i would be stoked. anyone know where i could get the best deal on a pair?
well steepandcheap.com today had some...but backcountry outlet has them for 236.
post #14 of 35

More PE 178

I bought a pair of these cheap last spring and just had my first full day on them.
Me: 5'11" 175# old guy, old school, black, double-black off piste type.
current skis: k2 AK Enemy 188, Nordica Mach 3 178

I bought the PE's to fill the whole in the Quiver and because they were dirt cheep.
Well these things really rock, What a big surprise. They were good on the groomed, even holding up well on the scraped off stuff, they had a fairly high speed limit and they have enough beef to blow through a pushed up pile. But where they really shined was in the crud bumps. I skied about every bumpfield Around because the PE's made it so much fun. I could even do the scraped off troughs cause these skis hung in there so well. They are so easy to ski, no hunt for the sweet spot necessary.

As ski=free and others have said, they do ski short
post #15 of 35
What length PE for a 5' 11" 162 lbs guy? Also, what are the best bindings for this ski, I will be using them as an all mountain - 50% west 50% East.
post #16 of 35
Thread Starter 
Have to add. I skied my PE's and Mantras both this weekend. PE's more forgiving, but that is it, IMHO. Mantras rocked. Kinda forgot how much I love them. My only gripe is in true powder they have a tad too much shape. But I'm splitting hairs,
post #17 of 35
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Originally Posted by DonT View Post
What length PE for a 5' 11" 162 lbs guy? Also, what are the best bindings for this ski, I will be using them as an all mountain - 50% west 50% East.
if your good 179cm if they made it I would be on a 184 or 189
post #18 of 35
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Originally Posted by DonT View Post
What length PE for a 5' 11" 162 lbs guy? Also, what are the best bindings for this ski, I will be using them as an all mountain - 50% west 50% East.
My Favorite bindings are mojo15. 174 length would be good to. PE's are a tad heavy just so you know.
post #19 of 35
I have 2 days in on the 179 PE's (Public Enemy). Boot center mounted with Rossi 120 race binders. I absolutely love it. For the cost of this ski, it is a great deal. I'm tempted to stock pile a few pairs.

I was skiing boot deep to mid-calf powder, chop, crud, man made crystal snow, hard pack, slush, and icey moguls. I even took it into the terrain park. This is a very versatile ski.

It is best at short and medium radius turns.

I thought it skied pretty light. Heavy? maybe compared to some park/pipe specific skis. The PE is really more of an all-mountain twin tip. If you think thats heavy, try out some of the Nordica skis. I have Afterburners 186 and man that is a tank compared to the PE.
post #20 of 35
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
I have 2 days in on the 179 PE's (Public Enemy). Boot center mounted with Rossi 120 race binders. I absolutely love it. For the cost of this ski, it is a great deal. I'm tempted to stock pile a few pairs.

I was skiing boot deep to mid-calf powder, chop, crud, man made crystal snow, hard pack, slush, and icey moguls. I even took it into the terrain park. This is a very versatile ski.

It is best at short and medium radius turns.

I thought it skied pretty light. Heavy? maybe compared to some park/pipe specific skis. The PE is really more of an all-mountain twin tip. If you think thats heavy, try out some of the Nordica skis. I have Afterburners 186 and man that is a tank compared to the PE.
I've skied heavier and lighter. Compared to my Mantras they are tanks. Don't get me wrong, I like the skis alot. They just are a little heavy especially for tricks. They do stomp landings though.
post #21 of 35
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Originally Posted by DonT View Post
What length PE for a 5' 11" 162 lbs guy? Also, what are the best bindings for this ski, I will be using them as an all mountain - 50% west 50% East.
Depends on where and how you ski:

179cm Western All Mountain
174cm East/West All Mountain, some park
169cm They have skiing outside the terrain park?

I'm 5' 8" 160 lbs. and just picked up a pair at SAC in the 179cm. Works great all mountain, a tad heavy and stiff for a park ski, will not spin or butter real easily, but will do just about anything on the rest of the mountain, bumps, crud, carving, boot deep powder. Top sheets are fragile and get cut up easily. But for the price it works incredibly well.
post #22 of 35
I got out for my first day on the PEs.

They really do float well in pow for their size. The tips stay up for th emost part. Not a ton of float, but enough for me. The snow today was pretty heavy and dense but they floated just fine in the untracked and managed cut up pretty well. When skiing these I notied that the old school bouncy pow skiing works better than the long GS turns I have gotten used to on my P4s. I got confident on these in pow so I tried some small jumps to pow landings to see how they did. Sank right to the bottom and heal out / over the handlebars. They aren't big enough for me to land even a 2ft drop on in soft snow.

They carve nice really turns and have a nice all mountain flex. I am glad I have them in case I want to spend a day on groomers and bumps. Best $170 ski I have ever owned.
post #23 of 35
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
I got confident on these in pow so I tried some small jumps to pow landings to see how they did. Sank right to the bottom and heal out / over the handlebars. They aren't big enough for me to land even a 2ft drop on in soft snow.
So what size PEs, and how big are you? I haven't done any "drops" on my PEs (179cm, I'm 190lbs), but I did shoot over a downed tree last year during a powder dump (~16"), got about 2-3 ft of air, and was surprised that the PEs skipped me right over the top of the powder with hardly any sinkage when I landed. Of course there is a lot of horizontal velocity in that case. I hit that tree about 5-6 times before the boarders found it, man that was fun.

I paid about $220 for my PEs, and that is some of the best money I have spent on skis.
post #24 of 35
They are the 179s. I am 200lbs. Not surprising IMO. I went off a berm on the side of a groomer in my case. If it was a little steeper it Might have been better. That tree sounds like fun.
post #25 of 35
Hey, I just got me a pair of 174 PEs, but have a question regarding brake width...do Stock PX12 fit? Or are wide brakes required?
Thanks from the new guy!
post #26 of 35
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
I got out for my first day on the PEs.

They really do float well in pow for their size. The tips stay up for th emost part. Not a ton of float, but enough for me. The snow today was pretty heavy and dense but they floated just fine in the untracked and managed cut up pretty well. When skiing these I notied that the old school bouncy pow skiing works better than the long GS turns I have gotten used to on my P4s. I got confident on these in pow so I tried some small jumps to pow landings to see how they did. Sank right to the bottom and heal out / over the handlebars. They aren't big enough for me to land even a 2ft drop on in soft snow.

They carve nice really turns and have a nice all mountain flex. I am glad I have them in case I want to spend a day on groomers and bumps. Best $170 ski I have ever owned.
hey landed a couple 5-10 footer in a lesson yesterday on these things....me thinks you need better stomping skills.
post #27 of 35
Thread Starter 
Stock bindings will work just trim the plastic or bend them a little.
post #28 of 35
I'm just getting into skiing again after a long break, and I'm considering these skis, but I have been told I should be looking for something with a smaller turning radius, about 15m. Would the PE's be too much ski/not the right ski for me till I improve my skills? My my skiing will be on hard packed/icy conditions (not in the US)
post #29 of 35
heard that was a great ski, nice review~

If your getting back to the hill this would be a good ski to hop on. Good all around, nice float in the pow... I also picked up the $187 SAC deal.
post #30 of 35
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
If you think thats heavy, try out some of the Nordica skis. I have Afterburners 186 and man that is a tank compared to the PE.
I load a pair of 179 PEs and a pair of 178 Afterburners back to back every time the family skis. The Nordicas are the lighter of the two.
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