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Skiing Under Influence

post #1 of 42
Thread Starter 
I was wondering as i was sitting in the mid-mountain lodge today and seeing people hanging out at the bar, how many people have a drink (or two or three) in the middle of their ski day and go skiing afterwards and how wise is that? I am asking as someone who finds this sport extremely challenging and physically draining at the end of the day. On the other hand, maybe having a drink will help me ski better?
post #2 of 42
A few years back I did fold to peer pressure when I went for a day with the guys from the office. I had a some wine with lunch and after that just put my skis on the rack. Just that bit of alcohol threw me off enough that it was ... well .... I wasn't drunk .. one maybe two ... with a burger and fries .... but it was enough to be annoying.

I took a bit of razzing from the two wedge tuners I was with ... I remember saying to them as I racked up the skis .... the difference between you and me is that I know how to ski (pure sarcasm) ... and you don't.

Just didn't enjoy it.
post #3 of 42
Skiing and alcohol don't mix well with me - had a bad experience in Switzerland involving my lower back, a yard sale, and quite a bit of vodka from the night (5am) before. Only had positive experiences with the greenery though.
post #4 of 42
At the tahoe gathering last year we had a BBQ at lunch time. It was great... but I had a couple drinks and then we all went to ski. I didn't like it at all. It didn't cause me to fall or anything, but it did cause me to lose the feel of the snow and the mountain. It was just odd and off balance. Skiing is now definitely one of those activities that I enjoy without any chemical alteration. It's just personal preference for me, though.

It seems like a collision would also be more likely... although I don't know how much it really changes things, so I don't preach at others as to whether they should drink and ski.


Edit: Ok, I do use Ibuprofen while skiing sometimes!
post #5 of 42
I don't believe that alcohol and skiing mix at all.

I've had some very bad experiences with drunk skiers at Panorama. Every year a certain group comes to Pano for a weekend of , er skiing?. I believe that they start drinking on the 6 hour bus ride on Friday and continue to do so throughout the weekend. These guys and gals ski out of control and have come close to nailing me, my wife and our kids. The ski patrol hates this group, some of whom end up piss drunk in areas that are steep, have tight trees, and various cliffs - areas that were previously heli areas. Dealing with a beligerent & drunk idiot in normal conditions is hard enough, but in this area it's outright dangerous!

The other experience with alcohol is with a group that I ski with midweek. On one or two occasions several members of the group elected to have a bottle of wine at lunch - only a couple of glasses ( I drank iced tea). After a wine fortified lunch, these guys are useless! No energy, no drive, no pizaz. Why even bother skiing? IMHO, alcohol is great after a good day of skiing, but not during.
post #6 of 42
Not a big fan of alc and skiing. However, I am told that certain plants are rumored to contain psychoactive compounds that produce enhanced color appreciation, mild euphoria and a ravenous desire for a snickers bar. I am looking into it further.

A ripped fuel tablet or similar energy supplement like a red bull gives a little lift to the pm session.

I never understood the appeal of coke. Grind your teeth to dust and yap yer mouth off. Too high maint anyway.

Bottom line. If you attack the mt, lay off the junk. If you are a grown up and can handle a couple at lunch - enjoy.

Personally - I like to give it hell till lunch. Dine. Take a nap and meet the crew for apres.
post #7 of 42
My "drug of choice" for skiing-chocolate covered coffee beans-especially before races! Gets you fired up and aggressive without the need to unzip your race suit like liquid coffee.
Don't really like the feeling of sluggishness with alcohol, and it's been quite a while since I've ingested "plant substances" while skiing.
post #8 of 42
Thread Starter 
judging by the responses here, i wonder why the mountains do it. i would suspect that their profit margin on a beer can't be much higher that the $4-$5 dollars they charge at my mountain for a gatorade or soda. don't get me wrong-i'm all for a beer (or two or three) at the end of the day and the bars at the base lodge make sense. but i don't understand the mid-mountain thing.
post #9 of 42
Go to Seven Springs in PA on a weekend and you will get a lesson on skiing under the influence. In the evening it is particularly dangerous as vacationers come out of the Foggy Google bar and head for the lifts.
post #10 of 42
cks, where I used to work, the answer could probably lie just in a quick look at the hill itself.

Sit on the deck at noon and ...

The front of the hill was all black and pretty steep .... usually deserted.

Look to the left or right from the lodge and the greens were packed.

Look behind at the bar and it was elbow to elbow.
post #11 of 42
Like most things, it's a matter of degree and individual differences. For the sake of arguement let's define a standard drink as 12 oz of 5% alcohol beer or one shot of 80 proof liquor, and a typical person of 170 lbs, while adjusting the dosage accordingly for individual differences.

Some people are a little up tight and tense. One drink will cause them to relax a little bit, but will have a very minor affect on their level of control. Two drinks will cause them to loose too much control.

Other people are so in tune with their skis that that one drink will cause a noticeable loss of control.

Still other people are already relaxed and that one drink does not do much for them.

When I was a young fool I did a lot of dangerous things while impaired, skiing, biking, off-road motorcycling, racing on public roads. Being impaired added to the excitement and sense of danger and adventure. I certainly wouldn't recommend it, but I understand it.

These days I prefer to remain straight and sober until the skiing is done. I will have a pint of ale after skiing. Wine with lunch would definitely make me sleepy, a scotch after lunch not so much, but that would take too long.
post #12 of 42
Skiing kicks so much ass - why would anyone want to mess it up with booze?
post #13 of 42
At the last Barking Bears Gathering I attended, we went to lunch early (after a few runs). Beers were consumed and a bottle of something stronger was passed around. The skiing after lunch was more fun than the skiing before lunch.
post #14 of 42
On some rare occasions, bluebird days, storm days, hiking sades days, flat light days, high speed days, crummy snow days, groomer days I enjoy skiing with the left side of my brain, the B-side of my personality, with creativity and artfulness, but it has nothing to do with booze.(but that was then and I'm going healthy now.)
post #15 of 42
The science here is rock solid; mild stimulant in low doses, depressant in higher, slows your reflexes, increases your reaction time, and better yet, reduces your normal inhibitions, so you're more apt to take stupid risks with those slower reactions. Good choice for skiing. :

Oh yeah, and it increases heat loss because it's a vasodilator, so you'll freeze faster after you hit that tree off piste.
post #16 of 42
What Jer said.

If you see me drinking at a ski area, I'm probably going to have a pitcher of local brew in my hand, it is probably going to be between 2 and 4, and I'm definitely done for the day.
post #17 of 42
I think people who drink at lunch time are probably not the best skiers in the world and it doesnt affect them as much. I hate trying to mess with a ski day. Anything that could possiable make you ski worst is something I dont want to try.

Outside of some beer after skiing I like to think I live a very healthy life above drugs and a heavy comsuption of booze.
post #18 of 42
I don't think there are any hard and fast rules, and alcohol tolerance and skiing performance seems totally subjective. Personally, a beer or glass of wine with lunch (when I eat lunch) doesn't affect my skiing at all. More than that, and I stick to groomers and practice my turns for about an hour until I'm sober again.

That said, I have a buddy who drinks a whole bota bag full of whiskey over the course of a ski day, and he does just fine (maybe it's because he weighs 200#s, maybe it's because he maintains a relatively low grade buzz all day). All I know is that I wouldn't enjoy doing what he does...
post #19 of 42
Some times its good to just grab a beer, but its best to wait until your done for the day.
post #20 of 42
I enjoy being under the influence.
I enjoy skiing.
I don't enjoy skiing under the influence.
post #21 of 42
If I'm skiing, then I really don't drink a single drop. I don't really enjoy skiing drunk, and I don't like having my balance off.

HOWEVER.. that doesn't mean I haven't skied drunk. There's been several employee functions, usually after hours when the hill is closed to guests, where I've been hammered. Really hammered. (I would guess a BAC of .20+) I remember one year I was drunk enough I couldn't walk in a straight line, but I had no problem skiing.. on tele's.. in the pipe.. and getting above the rim. Is it the smartest thing to do? Hell no, but no one ever said drinking leads to intelligent decisions.
post #22 of 42
Boy how times have changed. When I was growing up, skiing with a bota bag full of schnapps was commonplace.

Personally, a Spanish Coffee or two is not going to affect my skiing but I am 220-240lbs. Drunks should stay off of the hill.
post #23 of 42
I don't mix skiing with my drinking.
post #24 of 42
I have to say I enjoy a couple beers, a red-beer (beer and tomato juice) or a bloody mary when I'm skiing. Thats about it. Though. I tend to relax a little and ski more fluidly. Much more than that and I notice the aroebic capacity starts to dwindle. I've skiid loaded a few times and can't think of any benefits. On those occasions it was more about the on-mountain festivities then about the skiing anyway. Skiing was just a method of travel from one beer stop to the next -which was super fun.
The more important thing to me, is the getting behind the wheel and driving down off the pass where I ski. I know there are people who had a few too many, or even smoked a little too much a little too late in the day driving home around me. I ski at Stevens Pass most of the time. I drive up from Seattle. You have to drive Highway 2 to get there which under sober circumstances is one of the most dangerous stretches of road in Washington state. Its a windy stretch of road. When it snows, our snow tends to be that heavy wet stuff that is slicker than grease.
Drinking and driving -bad, drinking and skiing and driving -bad, drinking and skiing and sitting in the passenger seat babbling, raising hell, and carrying on -thats just good clean fun.
post #25 of 42
99% of the time I drink no alcohol either at home or at the hill.

However last Xmas I spent a week at Panorama, we had a room right on the hill and the truck stayed parked for that 7 days.

I bought a BIG bottle of Bailey's and filled my Metal flask daily with it.

That had to be the most enjoyable week of skiing (even with low snow amounts) I have ever had. Was great to get on the chair, take a nip on the flask. By the end of the day while I wasn't drunk I was glowing.

I didn't notice it affect my skiing much, in fact it felt better, more relaxed and balanced if anything.

mmmmm mmmmm Bailey's

I don't care for drunk idiots on the hill, I feel more sorry for the lesser skilled people on the hill that have to put up with them. I usually just blow right past them and my exposure to them is but just a second or so.
post #26 of 42
Alcohol and other stuff is good for only one thing - the few months after the season's over when you feel like putting a gun in your mouth 'cause there's no more snow. Alcohol is basically a cheap alternative to Las Lenas.
post #27 of 42
I was reminded by my wife that early season = ski 3 to 4 hours then drink for 3 or 4 more.May head out after a few to take a couple blue runs.Mid season when conditions are much better and more terrain is open it was ski till bar opened,lunch and a beer then out till about 2:30/3 pm ,then back to bar till 4 or 5.Late season ski till 11 then to bar till 5pm.Also dont mind smokin a bone while on hill.
post #28 of 42
I'm definitely not one to drink while skiing on a regular basis. However, I get really nervous before exams, tossing my cookies before events like the hiring clinic, PSIA exams, even the physical fitness tests I took in the Air Force. At the suggestion of a respected member of ski school management, I took a shot of vodka in the morning before the 2nd exam of a season when the 1st exam was not successful. I'm not saying that my hard work in between the two exams didn't help, but I'll take passing with a shot of Raspberry vodka in the system to relax me over not passing and being sick with nerves anyday.

Once skiing is done for the day though, drinking beer is good
post #29 of 42
When I was young.....I would love to see the video of me at blue knob.

Today....would rather not touch it...until the lift closes...THEN..it tastes so much better.

That said....I might have a 1/2 glass of beer or wine on a very rare day when eating a "nicer" lunch. Not PBJ stuffed into my coat on a lift. I find it hard to eat a $15.00 prepared lunch with a soda or water. I am sure it is in my head. 1/2 glass---170#s won't hurt a thing.
post #30 of 42
Originally Posted by skidbump View Post
.Also dont mind smokin a bone while on hill.
I'm not gonna say anything..
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