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Alright guys. I started skiing when I was 14. Since then I have fallen in love with it. I have bought a few pairs of skis not really knowing a whole lot about the skis themselves. Example: I ski a very short ski. I live on the east coast in northern VA and am skiing 164 cm skis. I am 6'3" 210 lbs. My skis are basically rentals. Im looking to get a nice pair of skis for this season. I ski maybe three times a year. Usually I have a 4-5 day trip out west every year. So I am looking for a powder ski, but also something I can use over here in the groomed ice. I have read some great reviews on the volkl mantra and was thinking a 170 or 177cm would be good for me. Please I would appreciate some help. Im going to you guys before I go to the shop. Thank you.

Ryland
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Alright guys. I started skiing when I was 14. Since then I have fallen in love with it. I have bought a few pairs of skis not really knowing a whole lot about the skis themselves. Example: I ski a very short ski. I live on the east coast in northern VA and am skiing 164 cm skis. I am 6'3" 210 lbs. My skis are basically rentals. Im looking to get a nice pair of skis for this season. I ski maybe three times a year. Usually I have a 4-5 day trip out west every year. So I am looking for a powder ski, but also something I can use over here in the groomed ice. I have read some great reviews on the volkl mantra and was thinking a 170 or 177cm would be good for me. Please I would appreciate some help. Im going to you guys before I go to the shop. Thank you.

Ryland
You didn't say anything about your skill level. The Mantra is a lot of ski. Epic likes the ski. You need to be a real good skier to benefit.
post #3 of 15
The Mantra is alot of ski, especially back east. What type of runs do you like and how do yu ski the? and how old are you now?
post #4 of 15
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woops

Hey sorry guys. I am 24 years old now. In terms of my skill level I do like to back country ski when I go out west and om the east coast around me I ski the double black diamonds which are not much. Ski Liberty is my closest spot. I enjoy the moguls. I have been skiing out west at alta, snow basin and solitude. When I am out west Im either in the trees or taking the double blacks but I go very slow. With my current skis I seem to tire out kind of quickly. I feel like I am leaning back very hard to keep the tips up in the trees. Like I said they are 164's so I think that might be the problem. But I am a NEWB so any help would be greatly appreciated. If there is anything else you guys could use to give you some more help to determin what I might need to what I might be able to handle let me know I will be checking back frequently. Thanks again.

Ryland
post #5 of 15
Any good ski will be a great improvement. I would suggest a Head Monster i78M in a 177cm size. Plenty of performance, east or west.

Michael
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Hey sorry guys. I am 24 years old now. In terms of my skill level I do like to back country ski when I go out west and om the east coast around me I ski the double black diamonds which are not much. Ski Liberty is my closest spot. I enjoy the moguls. I have been skiing out west at alta, snow basin and solitude. When I am out west Im either in the trees or taking the double blacks but I go very slow. With my current skis I seem to tire out kind of quickly. I feel like I am leaning back very hard to keep the tips up in the trees. Like I said they are 164's so I think that might be the problem. But I am a NEWB so any help would be greatly appreciated. If there is anything else you guys could use to give you some more help to determin what I might need to what I might be able to handle let me know I will be checking back frequently. Thanks again.

Ryland
I really dont want to recommend any ski to you in particular, but you should go longer than what you have. Go in the 173 to 180 range. 70-80mm(at the waist) more biased to Ski liberty, 80mm to 95mm for something alittle more biased to utah. 177cm Mantra is a great ski just not the best at ski liberty.

mike suggestion is a great one there are literally tons of skis out there that will be performer than what you currently have. Personally I would run 2 skis but with 'only" one skis I would actually go with something like a Head IM78 or IM82, Volkl AC4, or Metron B5 11.
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Thanks a whole lot

Thankyou guys very much. I will check out all fo the skis you guys posted. Gosh I wish I lived out west. I dont mind having two pair of skis so I might go with an east coast set up and a west set up. I think I need to venture a little further north like vermont to regain my appreciation for east coast skiing. Ski Liberty is all I got for now and Im not knocking it. I just wish it was a little bigger. HEH. Well thanks again guys.

Ryland
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Thankyou guys very much. I will check out all fo the skis you guys posted. Gosh I wish I lived out west. I dont mind having two pair of skis so I might go with an east coast set up and a west set up. I think I need to venture a little further north like vermont to regain my appreciation for east coast skiing. Ski Liberty is all I got for now and Im not knocking it. I just wish it was a little bigger. HEH. Well thanks again guys.

Ryland
If you want some natural snow/terrain close by go to Timberline,Wv or Blue Knob, Pa both a pretty nice mountain in the banana belt of east coast skiing.
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You have several sensible suggestions already. I'll add two more. I suspect that your ability is sort of middle of the pack (in the range of L-6 or so) Given that, and the fact that you have been on very short and low end skis, I'd would not normally suggest a stiffer expert level ski. Despite your weight, I think that some skis mentioned might be a little on the stiff side for you. You will learn faster and ski easier on a slightly less agressive ski. I'd highly reccommend the Nordica Nitrous in at least a 170 but probably a 178. This is a great mid fat ski that can handle eastern conditions well enough to raise your game several notches, but is also a good western ski.

SJ
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there are some Elan 888's in a 186 for sale here. Real easy ski to ski fun east and west and for 400 bucks a steal.
post #11 of 15
Phil,

The 186cm size is not a great ski for a this skier. Heck... I had to work hard just to stay with it and I'm 235 lbs!

Michael
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A Word for the Wise....

I am twenty two years old, 6'5", 185 pounds, and love skiing on a pair of Rossingnol bandits which are 184's. I believe this would be a good setup for you as well considering your height and weight. For bindings, I have nothing but positive experiences with Marker. There bindings have lasted our family through years and years of rigorous skiing. Look for ski sales to avoid paying fifteen hundred dollars for a setup if you are not out too often. For the bindings; your experience level, be careful with the DIN setting. Keep it low for your experience level, and maybe even have a tech take a look.

Hope this helps..take care
post #13 of 15
the amount you ski each year and the varying conditions, I'd recommend a full season of demoing. You'd learn more.
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A full season of demoing. Hmmm. That's say 7 days total, so say $250, or about half the price of last season's skis online. Plus the hassle of getting/returning each time. Normally, though, I'd still go with Samurai on this one, but OTOH, the skis everybody's mentioning are pretty much can't miss for someone like the OP. I mean, we all might like to dissect the nuances of how the iM78 differs from the AC30, but for someone who skis a week a year and has only rented stuff-from-hell, most of the skis mentioned here will work REALLY well. (Don't recommend the iM82, too GS-y for a week a year/bumps in the east. AC40 in 177 is better for him if he wants something beefy in 82 mm)

Main issue though is length, IMO, and he should stay short if he skis half the time in the east, likes bumps, and isn't advanced/expert. Meaning at 210, something in the mid 170's, not the 180's.
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thanks again

Thankyou to everyone who responded. I have been doing my research for the last week and have nothing but good reviews on all of the skis you guys recomended. I am real scared of going too long so I think I am going to go with a mid 170 range ski for my length. Once I purchase something I will let you guys know.

Ryland
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