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Recommend some skis for me

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Yet another "which skis should I buy" thread. Sorry.

First the background information. I'm an "advanced intermediate" skier, 5'11", 170 lbs. I ski Mammoth 95% of the time, on-piste 90% of the time. I do the black diamonds but not double-blacks or heavy moguls. I like to ski fast but not ridiculously so, usually working on my technique and not all-out aggressive. The conditions I seem to hit often are the typical groomed-then-cut-up runs, hardpack, ice in the spring, and occasional powder in the winter.

Currently I have Salomon X-Scream 8's. They're decent for what they are, but they have some annoying shortcomings. My biggest gripe is the lack of grip on ice or hardpack. Also, at high speed they're a bit squirrelly due to their softness. This doesn't help with the cut-up crud either. However what they do good at is making nice easy turns on the groomers, even at moderately-high speed. When I'm in my groove and the snow is decent, these skis love to do nice shallow turns all the way down the mountain.

So I'm looking for an all-around ski that's more all-around than just on soft snow. And something that can stand up to higher speeds better. I've been looking at the '07 Volkl AC3's, as some guy at work is selling a pair in good condition. But I'm open to whatever.
post #2 of 12
I'm almost exactly your size and ability. I wanted skis that did what you describe. I wound up with Dynastar Legend 8000s in a 178 length after much demoing. Love them. But I would only suggest that you demo them. I never buy without demoing.
post #3 of 12
I just bought a pair of Nordica Afterburners. I've had 8000s and demoed AC3s before. We don't have any soft snow yet but at 84 underfoot, not too stiff, and not super shaped I'm sure they'll do great there. On the man made groomed snow we do have they were great. Carved fantastic, held on the firmer sections, good rebound, just a ton of fun to ski. Any turn shape seemed fine. Stable at my sort of high speed. Paid $400 new with bindings. I think these will be around a while in my quiver.
post #4 of 12

Head IM78 is worth consideration

I opted against the Volkl AC4s/AC3s in favor of the Head IM78s. Looked at a number of different skis and had difficulty as each have good characteristics.

My suggestion is to demo the IM78 if you have the chance. Good reviews on this site for the Volkl and Head. Really can't argue with the previous posts. It eventually comes down to preference.

Regarding me, I'm 158#, advanced skier with 60 on-piste.

Hope that helps. Good luck.
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
After talking with SierraJim and others, I've narrowed my choices down to the Nordica Nitrous, Dynastar Legend 8000, and the Volkl Tigershark 10. As much as I want something to rock the harder stuff (TS 10) I think I'll probably end up going with the Nitrous or the Legend. But yeah I gotta wait until I can hit the slopes and see. I'm sure any of those three would beat the pants off the crappy skis I have currently on any kind of snow.

ebough, did you try the 8000's in 172 length? I'm curious because I've seen a few other people our size go for 178's with that ski, although SierraJim recommended I stick with 172's.

stevesmith7, what didn't you like about the 8000's that made you switch to the Nordica? I'd imagine you'd like the Afterburners better because of their additional width. Not so sure if I want to go that wide underfoot.
post #6 of 12
First ski that came to mind was the AC3. You should at least keep it on the list.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by cp-Mike View Post

stevesmith7, what didn't you like about the 8000's that made you switch to the Nordica? I'd imagine you'd like the Afterburners better because of their additional width. Not so sure if I want to go that wide underfoot.
Well, full disclosure, the 8000s I had were demos and maybe skied a little too much. I liked them in soft snow but they didn't hold hardpack as well as I wanted. The ABs hold really well, good pop and the 84 underfoot doesn't really feel like it's that wide. I am trying to establish a three ski quiver. Hard snow carver, do anything mid 80's ski, and powder ski. I haven't skied the ABs in much soft snow but if they work there I may dump the idea of a carver. The last two days were my first time on them and all we have is man made groomers but they worked great there. Found some small bumps, no problem. One thing on these threads that gets overlooked is price. The AB are pretty cheap, so are 8000s. Can't say that about everything these days. Do a search here, there are some other good reviews.

I just looked at your first post. You mentioned higher speed. The AB never felt close to hitting their limit in the crowded conditions I was in, and I had them going a few times.
post #8 of 12
I picked up the Nitrous for those firm conditions. Found the TigerShark a bit unforgiving, but it sure has edge hold. The Nitrous is an AC3 with 4 mm more tip and waist and 6 mm more tail. Kind of a toss up, and I haven't spent enough time on an AC3 to compare. I do like the Afterburner as a one ski western quiver, and I might like a Snoop Daddy even better if you are inclined to explore more soft snow without giving up edge hold. Keep in mind I have several skis in the 94 to 100 mm waist width and use the Nitrous strictly as a groomer and firm conditions ski.
post #9 of 12
I would say AC3, but I didnt get too much time on them today, edges are all pooped out and need sharpening. Either that or they have no edge hold on hardpack.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Hmm, I thought the Tigershark 10 was less burly and less demanding than the AC3? I really don't want something that's going to ski me. Oh, and how is it that the Realskiers ratings for the AC30 are higher than the 2007 AC3 even though the only thing that changed was the graphic? Grr why did I pay for that ****?

I keep reading more positive things about the Afterburners. Hadn't really noticed them before. Although I still think the Nitrous is more of the shape that I want.
post #11 of 12
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Originally Posted by Rise To The Top View Post
I would say AC3, but I didnt get too much time on them today, edges are all pooped out and need sharpening. Either that or they have no edge hold on hardpack.
The day I demoed them was rock hard and they wern't happy. I wrote it off to a bad tune.
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Well, after much reflection, I have come to realize that the kind of snow that I hate the most right now is crud. My current skis are very hooky in crud, and it makes skiing crud more of a chore than anything close to fun. So maybe I do want something wider underfoot, more of a crudbuster. Dyna Mythic Rider and Elan 888 enter the fray to join the Afterburner. Sigh, this is so much fun......

I think the 888 is too much ski for me...I don't want something I have to ride hard all the time. MR sounds good, but so does the AB. Gotta try both I suppose. Any opinions on how they stack up against one another?

Or is 84mm+ just too wide to be considered "all mountain"? I suppose I could start a crappy quiver by holding on to my current skis for the thinner, harder snow. Too many options.
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