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Atomic nomad crimson vs. Fischer Watea 84

post #1 of 9
11/20/07 at 9:42am
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Any opionions?
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post #2 of 9
11/20/07 at 7:57pm
Haven't skied either one, but I do own Watea 101s, and the Atomic R:EXs and M:EXs that are the heavier "predecessor" of the Nomad Crimson (they have basically the same demensionss and are marketed as all-mountian skis). I have also read up on both skis and flexed them in the shop.

For what is worth, it looks like the Wateas would be a bit more easy skiing and playful, whereas the Nomads seem to be a slightly more serious ski requiring a little more work to ski, but probably rewarding you for it. Based on nothing but conjecture I see the Watea as a good Rocky Mountain soft snow ski and the Atomic as more of a west coast ski.

I'd love to hear what people who have acutally been on them think.
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post #3 of 9
11/20/07 at 11:01pm
If you can wait a couple of weeks, I will try them both when the snow flies. They are on my short list to demo in fresh conditions. The Watea was skied in mostly spring hardpack last year, and they were a bit softer than the iM82, and had a little lighter feel. I haven't skied the Crimson. The Realskiers review (FWIW) rates the Watea as higher performance and the Crimson more easygoing, but others on this site have disagreed.
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post #4 of 9
11/21/07 at 6:06am
Dawg: I am very interested in what you think of the Crimsons. The R:EX/M:EX lineage is probably not very relevant. They are great skis, but considered heavy and often engender terms like "tank." The marketing touts the Crimsons as being 1/5 lbs. lighter than similar skis, which seems like a move to clearly separate them from the M:EXs, dispite nearly identical demensions. The Wateas are light and seem to have a more even softer flex than the Crimsons, but both are very torrsionally stiff.
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post #5 of 9
11/21/07 at 7:54am
Clarification of typo: The Atomic marketing materials claim, "The average Atomic Nomad is 1.5 pounds lighter (20%) than yesterday’s shapes."
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post #6 of 9
11/21/07 at 9:11am
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
Dawg: I am very interested in what you think of the Crimsons. The R:EX/M:EX lineage is probably not very relevant. They are great skis, but considered heavy and often engender terms like "tank." The marketing touts the Crimsons as being 1/5 lbs. lighter than similar skis, which seems like a move to clearly separate them from the M:EXs, dispite nearly identical demensions. The Wateas are light and seem to have a more even softer flex than the Crimsons, but both are very torrsionally stiff.
If anything, The Crimson feels light and responsive. No-one will call the Crimson a "tank".

Michael
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post #7 of 9
11/21/07 at 11:26am
I skied the Crimson all last winter, first thing that struck me was the preparation of the skis from the factory, awesome. Second, i'm 74kg aggressive skier, loves groomed piste but only if the snow puts me there. We only sell woodcore skis, yet i had to put the Crimson into our range. I've never skied a lighter, more versatile ski anywhere. Anywhere is skied, it took minimal adjustments for snow conditions. It has changed my opinion of skis. I love this ski and am difficult to please, especially when it come to changing my stubborn opinions on how skis work. We'll be looking closely at Fischer in January, but for the moment, quietly to myself, the Crimson is my ski of the season.
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post #8 of 9
11/21/07 at 11:54am
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Originally Posted by SMALLZOOKEEPER View Post
I skied the Crimson all last winter,


What length were you on?
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post #9 of 9
11/21/07 at 12:23pm
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Originally Posted by SMALLZOOKEEPER View Post
I skied the Crimson all last winter, first thing that struck me was the preparation of the skis from the factory, awesome. Second, i'm 74kg aggressive skier, loves groomed piste but only if the snow puts me there. We only sell woodcore skis, yet i had to put the Crimson into our range. I've never skied a lighter, more versatile ski anywhere. Anywhere is skied, it took minimal adjustments for snow conditions. It has changed my opinion of skis. I love this ski and am difficult to please, especially when it come to changing my stubborn opinions on how skis work. We'll be looking closely at Fischer in January, but for the moment, quietly to myself, the Crimson is my ski of the season.

I also agree, its like the difference between a typewriter and a PC.

Michael
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