Originally Posted by drewski180
(but let me ask you one more question... what if a skier tries to cause an accident? they are skiing with the sole purpose of making crazy turns acting like an A$$ and aiming to get in someones way. or what if they've been drinking? is it still the uphill skiers fault?)
All I am looking for here is for someone to admit you can't go to a situation/accident and immediately put ALL the blame on the uphill skier. Throw me a bone here...there HAS to be exceptions. Doesn't there?
Are you serious? You saw them doing that and you skied past them. You assess the risk. The person you describe is *easy* to spot and miss.
Just how small is the area you're describing? An acre? Go somewhere else...
When you see a wonderful skiier with beautiful slow turns and you go a little closer as you pass. He suddenly rips out to the right and you hit him.
(He just saw a nasty accident and reacted instinctively. I grant you it was hard to avoid because there were no warnings so your normal pattern analysis lead you to think it wouldn't happen. Nonetheless - your fault.)
I think the fact is that we all take risks as we pass people; we mitigate by passing as they turn the other way or by pole clicking or calling out or by going reasonably wide. Very occasionally we get it wrong - we're at fault.
Passing is a risky business.
You can certainly reduce the risk by passing at a low relative speed - but if you're both moving quickly and you *do* collide then all kinds of nasty things can happen (as in any fall).
Getting it wrong isn't 'evil' - but the consequences can be serious.
OTOH risk is something we live with all the time too - humans just haven't evolved* to judge it very well...
(* it is OK to use that word on these forums isn't it