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post #1 of 14
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Last year I used the 06/07 mantra and the 04/05 karma, as well as the 06/07 mojo 90 and the 06/07 foil 06/07 volkl 5 * demoing or using a buddys pair. I am an all mountain skier. I really dont venture off in to the park at all I spend 60% of my time in the trees and the backside of the mountain and 40 on the front and groomers. I really like the 105 underfoot of the gotama considering that the every time I used a wider ski than before as long as it was a wood core, I was able to tear up the groomers and ice much better than a thinner ski and still be able to turn great and go full speed. I know skis keep getting wider every year and Im just curious if anyone has any information regarding frontside mountain performance of a ski that is 105 mm underfoot. I would be using a flat binding as those are the only two pairs I have right now look px 12 and salomon v12. I just dont want to purchase the gotama and realize that it should only be skied on a day with fresh on the ground. I want an all mountain pair but I dont want to sacrifice the frontside performance and I dont want to ski the mantra again and maybe the bridge is not wide as I would like. I mention only volkl because I have a shop form from them.

Thanks in advance.
post #2 of 14
Gotamas are "live-able" as frontside skis, but not in the same way that Mantras are. Gots are great one-quiver skis in places like the Rockies, but are happier in softer snow.

I own both Mantras and Gotamas and have skied them extensively.

Search on Gotama if you want some more info...there should be tons of it.
post #3 of 14
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Does anyone have Gotama frontside mountain/groomer experience

I have spent over 4 hours searching the web for info on gotama frontside mountain performance, I want to know when I go nightskiing at Keystone will this baby carve up the front of the mountain with ease or should I go with the bridge?
post #4 of 14
sounds like you want 2 skis.

you want a "fat" ski to handle the crud and pow.

but you also want something for carving up the hardpack groomers.

in most instances you can't have your cake and eat it to.

sounds like you "need" a hardpack groomers zoomer "skinny" ski and then a "fatty" like the Goat.



now when you said "last year I used..." those were all borrowed or demoed skis, right?

if so it's too bad. you could've been set with the Karma and the Goat.

post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by cecerem View Post
I have spent over 4 hours searching the web for info on gotama frontside mountain performance, I want to know when I go nightskiing at Keystone will this baby carve up the front of the mountain with ease or should I go with the bridge?
Just demoed them at Loveland:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=61915
post #6 of 14
my "this year's" vote for the one-ski quiver... repeated excessively throughout this board = Nordica Enforcer. 135-98-125 185/r=21.

I have never ridden it. But based on it's specs- it's radius is virtually the same as my Jet Fuel; and it's construction, which is the same as my Jet fuel. (wood/metal) It's essentially fat GS board. And based on the fact that my jet fuel (126-84-112 186/r=20) rips groomers like nothing I have ever before skied, I have more confidence in the Enforcer as being the ultimate one-ski quiver than anything else on the market.

I think it's worth a look...

http://www.nordica.com/dynamic/ski.p... =1&restart=1&
post #7 of 14
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my "this year's" vote for the one-ski quiver... repeated excessively throughout this board = Nordica Enforcer. 135-98-125 185/r=21.

I have never ridden it. But based on it's specs- it's radius is virtually the same as my Jet Fuel; and it's construction, which is the same as my Jet fuel. (wood/metal) It's essentially fat GS board. And based on the fact that my jet fuel (126-84-112 186/r=20) rips groomers like nothing I have ever before skied, I have more confidence in the Enforcer as being the ultimate one-ski quiver than anything else on the market.

I think it's worth a look...



http://www.nordica.com/dynamic/ski.p... =1&restart=1&
I think you should try it before you fall in love; due to the big sidecut it dives in knee deep pow.
On hard snow it feels much more at home.
post #8 of 14
Gotama, thanks for the heads up. I won't be buying, but cheers.
post #9 of 14
I'd think about the High Society Freerides: http://www.highsocietyfreeride.com/skis_fr.php

I have the 187's and they're 104 underfoot but have a large sidecut. However, from what you've said I'd look at the 179's which are 92 underfoot. I demoed them last year front side for two days and loved them. Nice boutique company as well. I think you can get a discount on last year's model at www.getboards.com
post #10 of 14
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Is there anyone out there that has info for the gotama performance on hardpack & groomers?
post #11 of 14
I can only say Gotamas (mine are 06/07, the white ones, 190cm) are fine on harpack (anything than pure ice) if you have enough speed. Just tip/roll'em on the egde and you're going to have nice gs turns.

Short turns require alot more work and I noticed that I want to rather fly over everything with gs turns (like moderate bumbs) than try to make sl turns on'em. On crowded slopes I was a bit frustrated with the skis...if you can't open it op, the skis will make you tired soon (at least this happened to me). But I guess this will be true with any other fat skis with small(ish) sidecut?

See my (quite brief) review of the Gotamas (and some other Volkl 07/08 skis) here:

http://homeboyski.com/2007/10/20/vol...v-volkl-gotama
post #12 of 14
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Is there anyone out there that has info for the gotama performance on hardpack & groomers?
I think we just assume that it's been said a thousand times.

the post above me is spot on.

I can arc my first generations (which were the softest) on groomers but I blame that on my boots. (I ride fritches, too) And when I say arc, I mean never scrape snow and crank out med-long radius turns at high speeds. I keep my boards polished with diamonds too. I definetly notice a difference in fresh diamond polished rides and rounded edges.

If you keep the edges new and razor, haul ass, and seek smooth groomers, you can arc to your heart's content.

This is not a ski designed for groomers. To survive, they require tuning and speed and nicely fit boots. (for my lame ass, anyway.)
post #13 of 14
I own a pair of 190 Gotamas 05/06 and 190 06 Mantras. The Mantras can tear up the groomers almost like a race-stock GS ski with a lot of pop in your turns and solid edge hold on all snow conditions. The Gotamas are fine on groomers if you want to haul (190 specifically), super-G solid turns, but if your into controlled GS or want to feel the pop of carving on a groomer, this is not the ski, and in any sketchy groomer snowed conditions (particularily ice or death cookies or the like) good luck carving, just point em. Mounted flat on the gotama with 105 underfoot the edge contol feels off due to the width and takes a little getting used too. Why don't you want the Mantra again?
A good friend of mine and Volkl rep raved about the bridge late last year when it came out early. Said it was very playful for everything: park, groomers, powder. Similar to the Karma in flex, but wider and more aggressive of a ski. If you dont like the stiffness and aggressiveness required to ski the mantra, and are set to rip the groomers 40%, the bridge could be your baby.
Here is the Volkl Dims.
Gotama: 133-105-124
Mantra: 133-96-116
Bridge: 130-92-112
06 Karma: 119-87-111
Good luck. I also owned a pair of Karmas which i hated and do not like to admit. They floated surprisingly well for only 119, just way too soft and playful, and I dont ski the park so it was a playful nightmare most of the time. So, I bet the bridge floats great with a 130 is what I mean to point out.
post #14 of 14
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Gotama, thanks for the heads up. I won't be buying, but cheers.
Ditto. I hated my Enforcers. They did rip on groomed and destroyed crud, but that's not what I got them for.
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