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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
A couple of days ago I sampled the delights of Coronet Peak...also known as Concrete Peak

There is 450m (1500ft)of vert served by a high speed quad...but that is where the good news ends...it is all groumed trails!...ok they have good snowmaking, but it is all firm to Concrete!, ok there is about 200ft of off piste from the back of the summit and on one flank the trail dosen't run hard up against the boundry/ridgeline..There is a small park and quite a large pipe, but it is made from the aforementioned Concrete

post #2 of 15
Hi Y'all,

Been out of touch for a while. Those are great pix's to see in the middle of August in the Northern Hemisphere - AAHH!

Out of body experieinces are like being in the zone. I've had several in different contexts. Once when I was the first on scene to do CPR on a woman who had not acclamated well to the altitude of over 10,000'. Several times jumping out of perfectly good airplanes. The best ZEN! Often skiing.

They come at the times when I am totally in the moment, totally instinctive, and positively unconscious. They are never duplicated nor duplicatable. They are the times that - if you were an actor, your performance would garner an instant standing ovation. I LIVE FOR THAT!
post #3 of 15
while you hate the concrete it's the only thing that keeps a pipe in one piece. I've seen pipes being hosed down when the snow is too dry.

What you say about coronet's off piste is true though, there ain't much.
post #4 of 15
Tom - the coverage shown in your photos is good for Coronet Peak, they don't have the alitude of the other fields, hence their extensive snow making, or should I say concrete making. Remarkables (also referred to as Regrettables) has more off piste if you are willing to hike, that may be more to your liking. You got spoilt at Craigieburn!
post #5 of 15
Just reinforces the widely held view that Queenstown is a great ski town supported by very ordinary ski areas. The Wanaka area exposes Q'Town for what it is - a tourist mecca.
post #6 of 15
There has been some speculation about the future of Treble Cone recently as it is for sale, see


The local business owners in Wanaka realise how important Treble Cone is to the town, and a group got together to put in an offer to buy it. They could not afford to pay the asking price, but now another investor has come along that has more money behind them. Would be good to see the ski area being owned by locals with a vested interest in its survival. Fingers crossed the rumours of Cardrona buying it for asset stripping are just that, rumours.
post #7 of 15
The above link is not working, here is the text from the front page article in the Otago Daily Times, 10 August.

"Concern is building around the impending sale of Treble Cone ski area, as are fears the resort's could be stripped of its assets and closed

A local consortium of six people, representing about 25 investors, has emerged as a serious contender in a bid to ensure the popular field stays open.

Cardrona Alpine Resort, owned by the Veall family, of Melbourne, is also understood to be interested in purchasing Treble Cone. However, no-one from Cardrona or the consortium was prepared to comment because of confidentiality clauses signed with Tourism Holdings Ltd (THL), the owner of Treble Cone.

Treble Cone has been on the market for about three years but yester- day THL managing director Dennis Pickup said the company was in the middle of positive negotiations and an outcome was possible within two months, possibly sooner.

Mr Pickup would not comment on the asking price. However, it is understood it is between $4 million and $6 million. It is also understood bids to date have been below the bottom line of $4 million.

In 1996, Treble Cone paid a reported $4.5 million to install a six-seater chairlift. The company has also invested heavily in snow-making equipment. The book value of the field is understood to be $6 million to $8 million.

The prospect the whole field could sell for less than the cost of the chairlift has raised concerns around Wanaka that a ruthless purchaser could take the six-seater out and close the field.

However, Mr Pickup dismissed that notion yesterday: "No party we are dealing with has any intention of closing the field."

Factors counting against a high sale price are believed to be the field's income potential, maintenance costs, depreciation and the short, erratic nature of the ski season.

Treble Cone is known for its advanced and intermediate terrain. In its favour is the growing popularity of the field, the improving standard of mountain users due to better equipment and the fact the snow was excellent early season with good skier numbers.

The six-seater lift is the only one of its type in the Southern Hemisphere."
post #8 of 15
I had heard a rumour about this, I'd like a couple of their snow guns.
post #9 of 15
Would make sense Cardrona wanting to buy Treble Cone. Would give them a more advanced area to promote in conjunction with the cruisy Cardrona.
One of TCs problems is access. I can get my wife up to Coronet Peak and Cardrona but no way the Remarkables or Treble Cone. Even if she could ski them, the roads terrify her.

Julie is there still "talk" of access by gondola/chair to Cardrona from the Arrowtown side? The talk was of a bus up the valley and then the lift up the back of the mountain. Or is it ski field myth?
post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
Not able to get up the Remarks or Treble cone road???? Just take a trip to Mount Olympus, the others will be so easy afterwards....when you get so far down the olympus road you have to get to the end to turn round and you can't back down that hill!.......on a lighter point a gondola up to TC would make a lot of sense, would make it like many smaller European resorts......I would have thought that Cadrona's road was easy enough not to justify a lift?
post #11 of 15
There are still rumours that Cardrona want to put a lift over the back. But I think it would be just like Treble Cones Saddle Basin, no road access from the other side. The Crown Range is now sealed all the way, so this has made it more attractive for Queenstown skiers to come over to Cardrona. Cardrona's existing lifts need replacing as well, they are so slow, they really need to put in some detachables so they can move people up the mountain faster. They have to run them slow so the beginners (big part of their market) can get on and off the lifts, the McDougalls chair is especially bad.

nomad - I'd have thought the Cardrona Road was just as bad as the others, still a big drop down. My father used to say when he was building the Treble Cone Road that it is the first 100 m of the drop that kills you, so it does not matter wether you are 1000 m up or 100m. Still made me nervous watching him balance the bulldozer on the side of the mountain though. The first time I ever went up Treble Cone was when it was still a private field, the original track was only wide enough for a Landrover, and you had to do a 3 point turn to get around the 13 hairpin corners. Dad had all us kids in the open back deck of the landrover, and when he backed up we were looking straight over the side - now that was scary.

I have not been game enough to go to Mt Olympus yet, so I cannot criticse your wife, everyone has their own level of comfort. Tom's photos of the road have not made me eager to go. I guess one day Grum will convince me to go when the snow is epic, he'll have to drive cause my eyes will be closed.
post #12 of 15
Everyone knows Dozer drivers are madder than a cut snake!
(Amazing stuff, getting someone to cut a road in such places. I know a mine in Indonesia where they flew the dozer in bits to the top of the mountain, put it back together and then went down hill. But that another story and no snow. Actually, there is a glacier so it does sought of count.)
I would have thought the "little" bridge on the TC road was the worst spot. Then again, we all survive and go back.
I have not been to Mt Olympus either.
With the Crown Range road sealed all the way you would think it a waste of money to put a lift in up the back. Especially, if TC cannot make their chair pay. Nice chair though!
Have fun

[ August 12, 2002, 11:20 PM: Message edited by: nomad ]
post #13 of 15
Got one question, why do you call your ski area a ski field? Is it real flat?
post #14 of 15
It's funny I have never given it a thought of not going up a ski field road. But then I'm off a farm & the ski roads are highways in comparison to our farm tracks.
post #15 of 15
Originally posted by pyramid:
Got one question, why do you call your ski area a ski field? Is it real flat?
I don't know why we call it a 'ski field', just always have. And no, they are not real flat. If they were we would not have to drive up windy gravel roads with thousand foot drops off the side to get to them.
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