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BMM What is WC Mogul Skiing?

post #1 of 9
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I read through all of the posts. I only found one post from JoeMammoth that had any specificity. If your goal is not simply to generate traffic to your website, please describe WC technique.
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To put it as concisely as possible, WC mogul skiing involves the following

>Stacked stance
>Shoulders square down fall line
>Quiet (still) upper body
>Shin2tongue pressure
>Standing tall
>Hips forward
>Eyes up and looking ahead
>Skiing the fall line
>Tight stance (but not necessarily locked ankles, a little space is okay)
>Short radius turns, initiated at the ankles and executed with knee/hip angulation (but not dropping hip like in alpine carving)
>Weight on downhill ski
>Full A&E, including some pre-absorption to minimize knee stress
>Lead change heading into next turn
>Aiming for "corner" of bump
>Arms up and forward
>Light pole plants on backside of moguls (patience, patience, patience)
>Aggressive, athletic skiing
>Completely in control
>FUN!!!

Feel free to ask for more details on each of those points that I or my fellow WCers will try to elaborate upon. They are all addressed in my guide that I'm putting the final touches on now. I'd happily post a link to it here when it's complete if the admins will give me their blessing.
post #3 of 9
BMM

I have been another silent observer who has thoroughly enjoyed the extensive posts on mogul skiing. I for one would like to learn from someone like yourself who is at the cutting edge of their discipline. I am attending a week's training camp in the alps beginning of December as moguls are my weakest discipline. Should I always be looking to ski the troughs? Any do's and dont's and advice would be most welcome.
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BMM

Thanks for the response.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by lead change? I understand the meaning with respect to horses, but not skiers.

By forward pressure on the boots, do you mean driving the boots as in the days of straight skis, or is it in the sense of keeping contact with the front of the boots to avoid sitting back?

Describe the corner of the bump?

Thanks,
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BMM

Thanks for the response.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by lead change? I understand the meaning with respect to horses, but not skiers.

By forward pressure on the boots, do you mean driving the boots as in the days of straight skis, or is it in the sense of keeping contact with the front of the boots to avoid sitting back?

Describe the corner of the bump?

Thanks,
The lead change is when the weight shifts to the new downhill ski, you get the new lead on the ski and with the knee.

In terms of forward pressure, it is driving the boots so that you can load the front of the skis. It is used to ensure a strong edge engagement start and to control the turns. In addition, when you're loaded at the front you can put pressure at the front of the skis when absorbing. Furthermore, the shin pressure is needed to drive the tips down during the extension.
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Originally Posted by From accross the pond View Post
BMM

I have been another silent observer who has thoroughly enjoyed the extensive posts on mogul skiing. I for one would like to learn from someone like yourself who is at the cutting edge of their discipline. I am attending a week's training camp in the alps beginning of December as moguls are my weakest discipline. Should I always be looking to ski the troughs? Any do's and dont's and advice would be most welcome.
Instead of thinking of skiing the troughs, think more of skiing the fall line. Sometimes your skiing troughs, sometimes your skiing sides, etc. Your goal should be to ski as direct a line as you can.

My best advice to you would be to soak up everything you can at the camp, but then you really need to get mileage on the mountain. Split your time between groomers and bump runs, constantly working on some component of mogul skiing (be it short radius turns, eyes up, hands up, shin pressure, or whatever). However, be careful not to try to focus on more than one or two concepts at a time, as you will just get frustrated and not make a lot of progress.

If you have any other specific questions, I'd be happy to attempt to answer them!
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Originally Posted by fischermh View Post
BMM

Thanks for the response.

Could you elaborate on what you mean by lead change? I understand the meaning with respect to horses, but not skiers.

By forward pressure on the boots, do you mean driving the boots as in the days of straight skis, or is it in the sense of keeping contact with the front of the boots to avoid sitting back?

Describe the corner of the bump?

Thanks,
Fischermn: here's a definition of lead change from Mogul Logic:

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Originally Posted by Mogul Logic
Lead Change: When the body is stacked properly over the downhill foot the uphill knee naturally advances forward. The leading knee changes as the weight shifts onto the new downhill ski
I can't really define it any better than that.

Forward pressure, as Jack97 mentioned, is maintaining constant pressure between shins and boot tongues to load up the tips and to maintain as constant snow contact as possible. It keeps you stacked and forward and out of the back seat.

Here's what I mean by corners of bumps:

The image on the left shows an indirect line, but still fall line skiing. The middle image depicts a more direct line, still rounder turns, and fall line skiing. The image on the right is what we ultimately shoot for in WC skiing, and that is a direct line with small short radius edged (mogul carved) turns.

Note in the picture on the right how the line aims for the front corner of the bump. Now, as I described in the other thread, there are certainly occasions when you might not be able to ski as direct a line as that. But you still want to employ the same idea as much as you can, except with rounder turns (which may end up taking your skis a little further across the fall line).
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Sorry about that guys, didn't realize I posted an image from a password protected directory. Here you go:



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Thanks for that.
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