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post #31 of 89
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Overrated:

1) Apres' ski (in the traditional sense). After a long day of skiing, I cant get out of my gear and into a hot-tub or heated pool fast enough. Ill have my drinks pool side thank you, believe it or not hanging around a bunch of drunken and sweat soaked poly-covered skiers is not that fun.

2) Powder. Too much effortLOL...yeah I know I am nuts. I like it groomed, smooth, slick, and fast. My skis are all skinny and I like it that way. If I make it out west this season, I might change my mind though....I hope so to be honest.

3) Proper technique. If you make it down the mountain and do it without much effort and are having fun, then your technique is proper, nuff said.

Underrated:

1) HEAD skis. I think they are awesome and the best engineered out there.

2) Full face helmets

3) East coast skiers. Wrong coasters think right coasters cant ski....we can all ski, just some of us know how to handle very challenging conditions better than others...like ice for instance.
its not that you cant ski the powder its that you cant ski and the powder proves it.

Oh yeah BTW its never get icey out west either .....and when it does I guess west coast skier just flounder right?

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post #32 of 89
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
its not that you cant ski the powder its that you cant ski and the powder proves it.....
That must be it:
post #33 of 89
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Originally Posted by ct55 View Post
Overrated: carving and the importance of technique esp on corduroy "packed powder" medium sloped cruisers with no obstacles. Why even turn on these slopes?
LOLROTF pissing in my pants........
post #34 of 89
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
That must be it:
it is, when you make it out west you are going to be very humbled.

and to stay on topic.

my overrated things

1.skier only resorts
2.short carvers for all conditions
3.PSIA
4.fat skis all the time the maggot code, yes those cats ski on skis that are kind of retarded given certain days.
5.stiff boots, unless you actaully race


underrated things
1.working for turns, I will take quality over quantity any day.
2.natural corn snow it my second favorite snow surface to ski. You can only really find it when you are in the BC.
3.agility
4.being able to change technique to the task at hand. not pigeoned holed like a PMTS guy.
5.the ability to air small amounts open up a hole new world to any skier.
post #35 of 89
Overrated:
- Skiers who think plug boots and race skis are overrated - needs no explanation...
- Fat skis in the east - Why?
- Trail markings - Just ski...
- Twin tips - Do you regularly ski backwards? No? You don't need twin tips.
- "All mountain skis" - Seriously, are these actually good at anything?
- Gold Pins - only guarantees that said instructor might ski better than your local second year J3's.
- "Expert skiers" who can't ski powder, bumps, crud, small drops or other variable conditions - not quite... but keep telling everyone you're an expert.
post #36 of 89
From an over-the-hill has been that never was; overrated:
- speed; my thing is linking well made, rhythmic turns all day and the feeling of being mostly in control while descending big chunks of interesting terrain, enjoying great scenery and the company of friends and family, then soothing a happy kind of fatigue with a cold beer, a hot tub or shower, and a congenial partner.
- youth; like a romantic interlude between aging spouses the joy of skiing can deepen with time. The heart pounding physicality may not be quite the same for gray haired snow riders, but soulfully savoring the aggregate rewards of a lifelong love delivers the ultimate sense of satisfaction.
post #37 of 89
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Originally Posted by prickly View Post
Underrated: base and summit altitude; northern exposure.
Why is northern exposure worth anything?
post #38 of 89
Underrated:
Being first on a newly groomed track.

Overrated:
Being in super shape
post #39 of 89
Over Rated- A quiver of skis. (I'm guilty), I spend the majority of my time on the same skis and the others aren't used
Engineered Outer Wear Fabric For Flatlanders- Unless you're skiing in the mountains where there's a 10 degree temp difference at the base and the summit, I think people wearing $500 Arcyterex jackets are guilty of over kill.(maybe I'm just jealous I don't have one)
Skiing With Friends- Sure its fun and I'm as social as the next guy, but I skied alone most of my years and still had a great time
Under Rated- Snowmaking capabilitiy- In snow straved areas the ability to make alot of snow in a short period of time makes a huge difference in the quality of skiing . Amenities be screwed, a ski area needs a lot of compressor and pumping capacity
Skiers from small areas- I don't know what it is maybe the "Homer" in me, but I see skiers every year at my little area that just blow me away with their ability
Skiers that still conduct themselves courtesously in a lift line and understand how to alternate
post #40 of 89
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
Why is northern exposure worth anything?
The sun manks up everything else

Under-rated:
My appreciation for people that don't go hiking (it's nice to have an uncrowded bc), like to go 'night skiing' (not counting full moon bc pow sessions), consider tracked up crud at resorts "natural snow".

I love you guys. I appreciate your lift riding and night skiing.
post #41 of 89
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Originally Posted by splitter View Post
The sun manks up everything else
Sorry... What?
post #42 of 89
It's like any sport with equipment , 95% the person, 5% the equipment
post #43 of 89
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
Sorry... What?
The sun heats up slopes that don't face north, especially southerly aspects.

The heating ruins the powder. It is no longer cold and fluffy, instead it is heated and wet. Then, overnight, it will refreeze on the top of the snow giving you a [sarcasm]really fun[/sarcasm] crust to ski on/break through.

On the other hand, in spring, or lower altitudes, the heating and freezing can give you some great corn after a few melt/freeze cycles.
post #44 of 89
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
2) Powder. Too much effortLOL...yeah I know I am nuts. I like it groomed, smooth, slick, and fast. My skis are all skinny and I like it that way. If I make it out west this season, I might change my mind though....I hope so to be honest.
Oh my, we definitely don't agree on this one. Powder makes skiing effortless. ( By the way, I ski powder on skinny skies just fine. )
post #45 of 89
Overated: Summer

Overated: Carving



I disagree on the vertical Drop. I like my mountains to be mountains. I love how long it takes and how tired I am after sking JH top to Bottom. I love doing laps on the tram at Snowbird. A mountain that has say 1,600 vert of good tough skiing like MRG or Castlerock at SB is fine with me, but much less than that and I am wishing I was on a bigger hill.
post #46 of 89
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Originally Posted by splitter View Post
The sun heats up slopes that don't face north, especially southerly aspects.

The heating ruins the powder. It is no longer cold and fluffy, instead it is heated and wet. Then, overnight, it will refreeze on the top of the snow giving you a [sarcasm]really fun[/sarcasm] crust to ski on/break through.

On the other hand, in spring, or lower altitudes, the heating and freezing can give you some great corn after a few melt/freeze cycles.
But if there's no sun on your side of the mountain then you can't see the contour of the piste unless you have some killer goggles..
post #47 of 89
Overrated:

Apres Ski - Too crowded, too long to get anything to eat, too many people spilling drinks on you.

Mountain Resort Lodging: glorified and overpriced hotel rooms and often poor service because it's so crowded.

Bashing Gapers: They keep the industry going by buying the latest and greatest gear and looking the part. It's all about having fun.

Underrated:

Resort Food. Other than being expensive I don't see any problem with most places I have been. It beats McDonalds any day and you can find something healthy to eat usually.

Acreage: Too much concentration on vertical in some places. I would rather have a resort with a smaller hill that is spread out with plenty of room to get away from the main arteries - Holiday Valley for instance. When I browse the stats on a mountain I look at the acreage first. For instance Bristol MT in NY advertises 1,200 fee,t but its all in one congested area with very thin trails and everyone on your back all the way down.
post #48 of 89
While there's many points for me to agree/disagree with on this thread, the below sums it up pretty nicely.

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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
overrated: all the fuss over having 100% precise technique. Go have fun. relax.

Underated: properly fitted boots
post #49 of 89
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Most overrated- carving

If I read another word about carving I will blow chunks! Carving is for racers, over the hills, and gapers who never venture off the groomers.

Real skiers ski natural conditions.
Don't make me come up there.
post #50 of 89
Overated

Short skis - I won't chant the "short skis suck" mantra of yester-year, but the pendulum has swung too far folks. I agree that short skis benefit many skiers, but it bothers me when the masses can't understand there are skiers that benefit from longer skis as well.

Expensive wax - I always seem to perform worse whenever I run the $$ fluoro.

Snowboarding - in any form. Skiers can go faster, higher, further, and harder in any terrain in any condition on any slope. But, snowboarding is where the momentum and $$ is so ...
post #51 of 89
Overrated- most ski writing.
Overrated- most ski photography.
post #52 of 89
Fresh Powder
post #53 of 89
over-rated: ski resort jobs.:
post #54 of 89
Overrated: Ski in ski out accommodations
Underrated: Trailside parking

Overrated: Six packs
Underrated: Lift line management

Overrated: Six packs
Underrated: Core strength

Overrated: Six packs
Underrated: Twelve packs

Overrated: Sh**s
Underrated: Giggles

Overrated: Airplanes
Underrated: Automobiles

Overrated: Grooming
Underrated: Facial hair

Overrated: Thinking about it
Underrated: Groovin’ on it
post #55 of 89
Overrated: Snowboarders
Underrated: Skier only hills, and let's keep 'em underrated, thanks.

Overrated: Much of Colorado
Underrated: Northern Vermont

Overrated: Various three and four letter acronyms.
Underrated: Continuing ski education

Overrated: Most locally brewed beer
Underrated: Some locally brewed beer

Overrated: This year's skis
More Overrated: Next year's skis
post #56 of 89
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Originally Posted by Altaman View Post
I thought we could have a fun discussion on elements of skiing which you think are overated.
Not just rtying to be a dick but as a twentysomething whos skied with the best in the west and the best in the east. I say skiing out west is overrated.
Other than the occasional powder day or maybe more young frau's about. I've found Eastern skiing to be as much, if not more enlightening than Rocky Mtn. skiing.

That being said I can't wait to spend a season in Jackson/
post #57 of 89
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Originally Posted by Aquaman View Post
I say skiing out west is overrated.
Vail is never overrated.
post #58 of 89
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Originally Posted by TomB View Post
kiwiski: Chairlifts in general (all the best ski areas I know don't have any chairlifts) ... Road access (having to hike to the lifts eliminates idiots) ... Base facilities in general (you are ther to ski, not sit inside or buy crappy merchandise)

I think it would take an idiot to walk 20km to a ski area, to find out there are no base facilities and no lifts.


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post #59 of 89
Overrated: skiing at Christmas
Underrated: skiing at Easter
Overrated: "packed powder"
Underrated: slush
Overrated: some of Colorado (echoing an earlier post), as well as some of the Alps
Underrated: California
Overrated: heliskiing (from a cost/benefit POV)
Underrated: catskiing (ditto)
Overrated: getting an early start, skiing til closing, all those mantras about maximizing the day
Underrated: understanding what is the best part of the day at that particular point of the season (maybe late-day in Spring, early in Winter, etc.) and skiing it hard
Overrated: open bowls
Underrated: tree skiing
post #60 of 89
Overrated - worrying about what anyone else thinks about how/why/when/where you ski

Overrated - having gobs of gear and thinking your gear will make you better (this goes for most sports unless you're at an elite level)

Overrated - being so serious that you want to pick apart every little motion you make on the hill and want to ski "perfect"

Overrated - arguing with people you don't even know on the internet about helmets, what constitutes steep, whether 55 mph is attainable on a blue, whether you can outski HS, etc.

Underrated - just going out and having fun
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