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post #1 of 6
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I have a low volume, narrow foot. High performance boots, that most folks would consider very tight, fit me just right. Salesmen direct me away from them when I acknowledge I'm not an EXPERT skier (maybe a high intermediate). The only way I get upper medium performance boots snug enough is to downsize and then they are uncomfortably short.

The only comfort downside for me of a race boot is the stiffness of the liner and the overall stiffness of the boot.

Since I can't demo a boot I need to know what differences I will find in a race boot (one notch below plug) and a mid range boot like my Salomon Pro Guns. How do you think a stiff boot will impact my skiing? I read that they are "less forgiving" but does that help you to ski better? What's your experience?
post #2 of 6
Why not just get a boot that fits you the best, and as long as its stiffer then what you like, and work with a boot fitter to cut the stiffness down to the level that works for you? You could probably also find a aftermarket liner such as a Zipfit or a foam to take up some more volume.
post #3 of 6
I have a low volume foot also.

I had some 130 stiffness Lange boots and while they were great I found a HUGE improvement to my skiing, particularly off piste, but also on hardpack, when I went down a stiffness to the Lange Freeride 120.

I feel the improvement came because now I can flex the boot and work fore and aft on my ski instead of simply going for a ride where the ski places me. THis highly improved my balance and now I get power out of the ski.

I do everything from knee deep powder to beer leauge racing in the same boot.

While the Freeride 120 is a "tad" roomier than the WC line, I found this let me go to the proper length, get a very snug fitting boot and had just enough forefoot and toe room to wear all day in absolute comfort but still reap all the benefits of a high performance boot.

This year the Freeride 120 is the 130 and I own the Freeride 130 this year and it is the same flex as the 120 from last year.
post #4 of 6
Sounds like you might be a good candidate for a Dalbello Krypton Pro boot with an Intuition liner. It is a fairly low volume narrow boot, and it comes with the ability to upgrade to the Intuition liner that is heated and molded to your foot. The shells are also made standard with a little extra length in case you want to downsize. They have two sets of tongues to change forward stiffness, as well as other stiffness and forward lean adjustments. You should be able to get an excellent low volume fit and the stiffness (or lack thereof) that you want without having to get a ridgid race boot.
post #5 of 6
I'm going to second camhabib's suggestion, work with a reputable boot fitter and make sure that you are in the right size first. Get shell fit whenever you buy boots. With out a shell fit you really don't know what's going on inside that boot. And while your at it get a pair of custom footbeds built, if your going to all the trouble to make them fit, make them fit right. You can't do that with out custom footbeds. Some boots alow you to remove one of the two back spine rivits this can really make a difference in the flex of the boot. Another trick (for minor flex adjustments )is to fasten the power strap under the plastic shell(against the tonge) not over the outside of the shell. It still keeps the liner in good contact with your shin and calf but softens the boot up. You would be amazed at what a little cutting can do when applied in the right places, make sure that your boot fitter( and I can't say this enough) knows what he or she is doing! Less is always more, you can't uncut what you cut. You also need to keep in mind that while race level boots tend to be more edgey (greater lateral response, that's a very good thing), than their recreational counter parts, the liners tend to be a lower volume fitting much closer to your foot, not to mention the footboard and the boot sole ( for snow feel) so they can be a bit more chilly than your recreational boots. All in all I'll sacrifice a little warmth for perfomance. Shop around until you find a bootfitter that you are really comfortable with. New boots are a big investment and they are the MOST IMPORTANT piece of equipment that you buy! A poorly fitting boot not only wrecks your ski trip it wrecks your skiing! Good Luck!
post #6 of 6
don't fill a boot up with anything but your foot! Seriously!!!!

OK, boots, in addition to the dalbello, try a falcon 10 or Raptor or Dobbie
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