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Advice on Rossi 9s

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
Howdy:

Anyone with experience with last year's Rossignol 9s World Cup? I've been offered a used pair of 165's for $135. I haven't seen them, but they guy says they're in great shape (used only on the course).

Also, I plan on mounting Rossi FKS 155s on these. Do the pre-drilled Rossi plates accommodate the FKS or only the Race series (I think they're the same hole pattern, but correct me if I'm wrong).

About me: I'm 6'2", 185lb and an aggressive all-mountain skier who plans on using these skis all over the resort (i.e., groomers, bumps, glades, small cliffs).

Thanks for any help / advise you guys and gals can offer!

Have a great season!
post #2 of 18
Paging Iriponsnow....Iriponsnow to this thread, please.
post #3 of 18
okay, i don't know anything about the 9S, but at 6'2" and 185lbs the 165cm seems hella short...
post #4 of 18
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
okay, i don't know anything about the 9S, but at 6'2" and 185lbs the 165cm seems hella short...
They're slalom skis... They're supposed to be skied ridiculously short. Using them as an all-mountain ski though... that could be interesting!
post #5 of 18
Thread Starter 
[/quote] Using them as an all-mountain ski though... that could be interesting![/quote]

Is it silly to take slalom skis outside the gates? Can't they handle the bumps and trees?
post #6 of 18
FKS 155 will fit fine not, good in trees, hand full in bumps unless you can ski round bump turns and are quick with your thinking and movements. Have FUN:
post #7 of 18
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Dan Ringeisen View Post
FKS 155 will fit fine not, good in trees, hand full in bumps unless you can ski round bump turns and are quick with your thinking and movements. Have FUN:
Sorry: What about the FKS? Will they fit on the plates or not? I'm pretty quick with my movements: I grew up skiing Tresckow Trees! Go Taos!!!
post #8 of 18
at your height and weight 165cm is far too short. as for using them as an all mountain ski... well the 9s is notorious for delaminating pretty quickly when not skied on a course.

look, to avoid any hassle on your part, ill just take them off your hands. trust me, i'm doing you a favor
post #9 of 18
165 is the mens slalom length. It's a slalom ski.
post #10 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the advise guys and gals! I understand that the 9s are a slolom ski (I'm not that out of it) and that 165 sounds really short - but it's really not for that type of ski.

I was hoping that someone had experience with it outside, but proximate to, the race course (e.g., in-bounds trees, bump runs, crud, etc . . . but not the backcountry - I have other skis for that) (thanks for the de-lam comment - that's the type of advise I am seeking).

Specifically, because I've never taken a slalom race ski into more adverse terrain, I don't know if they are prone to bending, cracking, snapping, malforming, spontainiously combusting or otherwise modifying themselves in permanent and undesireable ways (thanks for the de-lam comment - that's the type of advise I am seeking).

Also, does anyone have info on the pre-drilled plate? Specifically, will they accommodate the Rossi FKS 155 for a 319-length boot?

Why am I thinking of these skis? I am looking to fill a percieved hole in my quiver. Currently, I ride the Nordica Top Fule 178 (but they have two draw-backs: 1. I've put two HUGE core shots into them, including one that collapsed my side wall and took about 4 inches of edge out with it and 2. the Marker Demo bindings chatter and have a strange feel at higher speeds and in the bumps - they feel fine in the backcountry, and that's what I'll use them for this year (see you guys at Berthoud and around Silverton!)). Also, I have a pair of Nordica Dobermann GSR, which I LOVE at speed, but I don't always want to make huge, FAST turns - especially if I'm at A-Basin on the weekends (too crowded by half), and I can't take them on Pallavicini - unless Nepolian grooms Main St. again! I'm looking for a ski that I can strap on in the resorts, make quick turns on the groomers, hit up a mogul patch and sail through a glade or two. My dream would be a pair of Stockli Laser SC in a 168, but I thought the 9s WC in 165 and at $135 made sense - if not perfection. Comments?

Thanks again!!
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by Carl R View Post
165 is the mens slalom length. It's a slalom ski.
Yep - it's as big as they get. I'm 6', 185#, and ski the Fischer RC4 WC Slalom at a 166.

On a small crowded hill they're fun. Beyond that, I hav no reason to use them, and would hate trying them in the bumps - too stiff and unforgiving. They are very rigid. Not sure about the Rossi, but if it's anything like the Fischer (I imagine it is...), I would not call it a great all-around ski.
post #12 of 18
I had a pair, fun for a couple of days on a small hill, no issue with the FKS bindings, will fit fine.
Great for ripping up little round turns, as mentioned not a great bump ski, nor are they not fun if they are not razor sharp.
post #13 of 18
For that price, go for it! Enjoy. Race stock skis definitely like flat snow and like to be sharp, but assuming those two conditions are satisfied, you won't find anything more fun, especially on the flats. As for bumps and trees, they're better than a race stock GS ski but are definitely not ideal. And they're more fragile than other skis. It would be like doing a rally course with an F1 car. It's definitely doable but there are better options. What they do have in their favour is snappiness, nimble feel, tight radius (for trees), short length and energy. Where they lose out is dampness, durability and smoothness in rough terrain. Prepare for a bumpy ride.

Get them and see what they can do. You'll love them for something.

As for size, longer race slalom skis don't exist. Weener 15 year boys to the stalkiest of WC racers use that length, so there's not much to debate there.

The skis require an FKS 120, 155 or 185 binding (or older FKS bindings with a 4 screw toe piece and Look counterparts). They will mount for a 319 sole.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by AlbuquerqueDan View Post
Also, does anyone have info on the pre-drilled plate? Specifically, will they accommodate the Rossi FKS 155 for a 319-length boot?
Check out the tech manual from rossignol.
http://www.rasc.ru/gear/pdf/manual0506_r_en_US.pdf

My girlfriend got the FKS 120 Race bindings with the '05 9S FIS Race 155 version with the golden box plate.

Personally I think that if you get theese skis you'll stick to the hard icy slopes just because it's so d*mn fun.
post #15 of 18
Btw I don't think a ski can be more wrong for bumps than theese. They will most probably become bent and they will throw you off during the process.
post #16 of 18
Sorry I'm so slow, didn't realise the answers were above...
post #17 of 18
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the help! I just bought the skis - it was a good deal, I have a pair of bindings to strap onto them, and I'm sure I'll find SOMEWHERE to ski them!
post #18 of 18
Well Dan, now you just need to do your cold weather dance.
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Originally Posted by dookey67
okay, i don't know anything about the 9S, but at 6'2" and 185lbs the 165cm seems hella short...
You need to try a pair this year. JO- oh, wait, wrong forum.
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