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Rear Entry Boots

post #1 of 18
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I just viewed Trekchick’s post in the,"Ask the Boot Guys," section and have to comment on a hilarious post. I have a friend (now a senior citizen) that has been skiing rear entry boots (Solomon’s) for the past 19 years (the same pair). He skies straight skis, rarely has them tuned,and was on the ski Patrol for 8 years at Whiteface. He skis in jeans, under a nylon shell and is one of the best skiers I have ever seen. I don’t know how he does it but he can ski anything. Three years ago I saw him ski The Blowhole on the Blackcomb Glacer. He lost one of his skis on the first turn and skied the rest on one ski and never fell. The conditions were icy and bumped up. I wouldn’t try it on two skis and modern equipment. Your picture of your husband’s ebay purchases made me laugh and I’m sure they will make my skiing buddy cry when he sees all those rear entries are off the market.

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post #2 of 18
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Originally Posted by oneotwoandcounting View Post
Your picture of your husband’s ebay purchases made me laugh and I’m sure they will make my skiing buddy cry when he sees all those rear entries are off the market.
I doubt it.

SX owners sneer at benighted Raichle and Nordica fans, and rightly.
post #3 of 18
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I didn’t get a picture of his run at Blackcomb but here is on of him standing next to a Ski Patrol buddy at Whiteface. You can see the "gear" he skis on. He is a throwback to another time.

Click: http://adkron.net/pics121802.html to see a pic of this amazing skier.

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post #4 of 18
Thanks for the grins.
My husband is stuck in the 70's and 80's in many ways, however, if he's really serious about getting modern boots, then I'm sure he'll be happy to sell his stock of rear entry boots.
I'll let you know
post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by oneotwoandcounting View Post
Click: http://adkron.net/pics121802.html to see a pic of this amazing skier.

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Excellent pics, thanks!

Funny, I think I was there that exact week (my skis were stolen just before Christmas).
post #6 of 18
SX92/93's were great boots, nothing to be ashamed of skiing that boot. There are some on Ebay right now.
post #7 of 18
I used to have a pair of bright yellow Hanson "Avanti"s. They were wax injected and and had neoprene liners. I never had cold feet. Although rear entry boots have suffered much derision of late, I might even consider another pair of Avantis if they were still available.

There, I said it. Go ahead and laugh.
post #8 of 18
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
Thanks for the grins.
My husband is stuck in the 70's and 80's in many ways, however, if he's really serious about getting modern boots, then I'm sure he'll be happy to sell his stock of rear entry boots.
I'll let you know
I'll send a link from your, "Ask the Boot Guys,' thread to my buddy. If he is interested I'll let you know. As you might expect he is a "bit" of a character.

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post #9 of 18
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
SX92/93's were great boots, nothing to be ashamed of skiing that boot. There are some on Ebay right now.
Yep. Salomon was the only company to ever make decent rear entries.
post #10 of 18
Cool butt pad! Your friend doesn't follow trends anymore since he got stuck with those boots and learned his lesson. I was already a retro-grouch when rear entry took over the market, so I managed to avoid the rear entry experience. I have a butt pad though. Unfortunately butt pads were never trendy, so I got one.
post #11 of 18
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Originally Posted by telerod15 View Post
Cool butt pad! Your friend doesn't follow trends anymore since he got stuck with those boots and learned his lesson. I was already a retro-grouch when rear entry took over the market, so I managed to avoid the rear entry experience. I have a butt pad though. Unfortunately butt pads were never trendy, so I got one.
My friend's butt pad serves him well. I can't use that type because of my height. It ends up missing the chair seat and is crumpled up against the back of the chair. So I bought the type that has Velcro straps for each leg. I have seen "fanny flaps" knocked. I think "Powder" magazine had them in their list of "never dos" while skiing. Yet on a rainy or snowy day (or a day when the snow guns are aimed at the chairs) they really do keep your butt dry and Gore-Tex does not. The Velcro straps also disguise, "the "fanny flap." My friend could care less about that.

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post #12 of 18
I skied the sx92/93's. I found it fit my skinny lower calf quite well. I wore a size that had a real snug shell, so I didn't have to tighten the cables in the toe and instep. I thought they could not be beat ---until--------

I graduated to some yellow Rossie Course's (again with a snug shell fit). They were so responsive that I fell attempting my first few turns using them.
post #13 of 18
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Originally Posted by oneotwoandcounting View Post
I have seen "fanny flaps" knocked. I think "Powder" magazine had them in their list of "never dos" while skiing.


I can see how POWDER would say that.

Of course they probably wore them in 3 feet of fresh, got pow trapped up and rolling up their backside, and ruined the tracks for the next guy.


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Yet on a rainy or snowy day (or a day when the snow guns are aimed at the chairs) they really do keep your butt dry and Gore-Tex does not.
Yep.
post #14 of 18
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
I can see how POWDER would say that.

Of course they probably wore them in 3 feet of fresh, got pow trapped up and rolling up their backside, and ruined the tracks for the next guy.




Yep. [/size][/size]
Hi Cantunamunch" It was Powder's October's 2007 issue. the article was entitled 11 Ski trends That Should Die. Butt flaps were #7. Here they are with a shortened explanation:

1. Train-Robber Bandanas: Don't wear one on your face, get a gaiter.
2. Salty Patrollers. Nothing but respect for patroller’s but be kind, some are not.
3. Yuppie Tele Skiers: Dirty Tele skiers come back. Where's the duct tape.
4. Pay Parking. $10.00 cheeseburger etc, we have already spent enough, you don't need another $10.00 to park.
5. No Music At The shac: Skiing used to be a party, lets get back to that.
6. Neon: The Winter X Games are over, neon is heinous.
7. Butt flaps: Wear Gote-Tex.
8. Wearing Your Beacon At The Bar: Stop bagging about bagging Wolverine today, everybody heard you.
9. Full Face Helmet: This isn't heli skiing or, "motocross."
10: Pass In The Goggle Strap. Yeah we know you ski a lot.
11. Silent Chairlift: Let's get back to it, concentrate on your next run.

The original in Powder is much more descriptive and humorous.

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post #15 of 18
102, I had a crumpling problem as well until I safety-pinned a pair of old boot straps to the flap.

Still, without the center pass-through, it's like your own personal pow-dozer if there's anything up over the boot-tops.




Thanks for the supporting article, wish more people would back up some of their claims and recollections.
post #16 of 18
I had a pair of Salomen SX-91 rear entry boots that my friend sold me while I was in traction with a broken femur. I hated them as they gave me heinous bone spurs and didn't generally perform well for me. There is a reason why the Queer entry boots aren't around any more. That being said, everybody should feel free to use the gear that works for them. I know several people with really old boots (like flexon comps) that won't use anything else and are in panic at the prospect of having to get something else. People were great skiers long before shaped, fat, whatever skis. It's not the gear, it's the attitude. If you want to ski better, ski more.
post #17 of 18
As far as wearing beacons in bars, I think it's alright. I put it on everyday, I turn it on when it goes on and I turn it off when I take it off at home. I know that I am capable of forgetting to turn it on otherwise. I've seen people who try to save batteries ski all day and forget. I met a really cool guy in the bar at Targhee who searched me out using his beacon. I ski really well, but where I live I'm average at best. I never heard Doug Coombs tell anyone how good he was. I tend to move away from the loudmouths at the bar.
post #18 of 18
I put my beacon on on November 1st and don't take it off under any circumstances until May 1st. You never know when The White Death could come for you.:
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