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Should I Remount Bindings for Newer, Smaller Boot?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
I recently purchased a new boot, Lange Freeride 130s, and the sole length is 1.6cm shorter than my old boots. I plan on skiing these with a pair of 194cm Legend Pros (mounted in the recommended position for my old boots) that I've had for years. I was tinkering with the binding and it turns out that I have just enough adjustment to accommodate the shorter boot soles. Should I have the bindings remounted for the new boot?
post #2 of 14
I assume that you can adjust the heel piece of the binding to accomodate the shorter boot. In that case I would not remount the binding since the toe piece is effectively in the same spot.
post #3 of 14
1.6 cm is barely over half an inch (.63). Like Tom B said, just adjust the heel piece.
post #4 of 14
Even though you can adjust the binding to accommodate the new boot, you'll still need to make sure the forward pressure can still be set correctly...

1.6cm can have an effect on the way the ski feels/skis (sorry guys, but even that small amount can affect the ski)...If it were me, I'd try it first, assuming the forward pressure can still be set correctly, and see if the ski feels any different, good or bad, to you.

To explain how much a cm, or two, can affect the way a ski feels/skis, take the Armada ANT as an example:
The difference between mounting the ANT's -9cm from true center (what many consider the sweet spot for this ski) and -7cm (as I did with my first pair, which is still approximetely -1cm from the factory line) was the difference between the tips diving in soft snow and the ski floating...Having the skis mounted at -9cm (as are both pair I have now) made a HUGE difference in performance for me.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by jay_p View Post
...I was tinkering with the binding and it turns out that I have just enough adjustment to accommodate the shorter boot soles. Should I have the bindings remounted for the new boot?
Just enough...hmm...what does that mean?
Certainly verify that your forward pressure adjustment is still within spec with boot clamped. Some bindings are less tolerant even with only a .6 inch movement forward, compromising elastic travel and performance. If the binding FP falls into spec and your new boots sole mid point lines up with ski centerline mark with boot toe lug square in binding toe piece; great. Otherwise [I'll assume the binding is fixed mounted flat for this exercise] remounting heelpiece is all that is necessary to bring the bindings forward pressure adjustment into spec and you to remain centered. A second drill for heel piece will not degrade skis or value if plugged correctly.
post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
Even though you can adjust the binding to accommodate the new boot, you'll still need to make sure the forward pressure can still be set correctly..
...missed this post...What memosteve said...
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
Just enough...hmm...what does that mean?
Certainly verify that your forward pressure adjustment is still within spec with boot clamped. Some bindings are less tolerant even with only a .6 inch movement forward, compromising elastic travel and performance. If the binding FP falls into spec and your new boots sole mid point lines up with ski centerline mark with boot toe lug square in binding toe piece; great. Otherwise [I'll assume the binding is fixed mounted flat for this exercise] remounting heelpiece is all that is necessary to bring the bindings forward pressure adjustment into spec and you to remain centered. A second drill for heel piece will not degrade skis or value if plugged correctly.

Good point made here, missing from my post but I did mean to mention it as well...See if your new boots midpoint still matches up with the ski's line...Even though the boot is smaller, doesnt mean the midsole mark changed by any significant amount.
post #8 of 14
i went from 28.5 kryptons to 27 nordica 14 speed machines and it was like 4 or 5 clicks to adjust to new boots
post #9 of 14
Nice boots. Sounds like you've got your shell fit dialed in...better feel and response.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by jay_p View Post
I recently purchased a new boot, Lange Freeride 130s, and the sole length is 1.6cm shorter than my old boots. I plan on skiing these with a pair of 194cm Legend Pros (mounted in the recommended position for my old boots) that I've had for years. I was tinkering with the binding and it turns out that I have just enough adjustment to accommodate the shorter boot soles. Should I have the bindings remounted for the new boot?
Where does your center of boot mark line up in relation to the marked ski center of boot?

This is going to have a big effect on how the ski handles off piste.

If your center of boot is behind the ski center of boot line, that is likely good, if not even better for off piste use.
post #11 of 14
re-adjust with out re-mounting.

Go ski the ski, see how it feels.


If you don't like it have them re-mounted, jeeesh not that difficult
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. As far as forward pressure, I don't know. I adjusted the heel piece so that binding hit my boot in a similar position as my old boot. Unfortunately, this year of the LP was a race room ski so there is no mark to line up with the new boot. I took them out for just a few runs and the ski definitely felt as if I had much more "tail" than I was used to...guess this makes sense as I am probably centered foward of the old mounting point. Think I will take them into the shop get them remounted.
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by lloyd braun View Post
...If you don't like it have them re-mounted, jeeesh not that difficult
Of course it is not that difficult. Of course we make it more complicated than it should be. But common, the entire site would implode if we couldn’t post our angst over minutiae :
post #14 of 14
The factor that has the greatest effect on how the ski feels and how you perform with it, is the position of the ball of your foot on the ski. Even though the new boot is 1.6cm. shorter, the position of the ball of your foot will probably not change appreciably, so I would just move the heel piece forward first and try out the skis.

I personally like to have the ball of my foot at the mid-point of the running surface of the ski. This running surface is that part of the ski exerting pressure on the snow, which excludes the curved parts up to the tip and tail. This position is frequently about 2cm. more forward than the usual position with the centreline of the boot lined up with the mark on the ski.

I find its easier for me to initiate turns and I therefore have a little more edge-to-edge quickness and agility in the bumps, etc. with my boot in this more forward position.
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