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Fischer RX4 good for low intermed skier?

post #1 of 11
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My Brother in law just started skiing 2 years ago. He bought some boots and my wife and I wanted to see what the bears could recomend for him to match up with those. He will be skiing 7springs probably 15-20 days this season. He is about 5'9" and 180lbs. He skis slow and in control on mostly green terrain. The last lesson he took was private so I don't know what level it was--maybe lvl 3. I was thinking RX4 in like 170. Is this a good ski for a timid low level skier?

If not what would you recomend?
post #2 of 11
I'll probably get some negative feedback for my suggestion, but I think that he would be better off with an RX6. True, the RX6 is able to handle far greater abilities, but I think it would be a good ski choice and one that he could enjoy more and advance more with. There is a substantial difference between the RX4 and the RX6.
If you were to go into a good, honest ski shop and ask them for a beginner ski, they would point you to a section of the wall and say "anything there." Most beginners are skiing at a price point for skis, boots, bindings, and poles. At the RX4 price point (a good ski at that point) skis are designed differently than at the next higher price point. Any ski needs to have some torsional rigidity so that it doesn't flex/chatter all over the place each time you turn. The lower price skis do this by making the ski stiff - everywhere. It is stiff (somewhat) torsionally, but also stiff longitudinally. This makes it more difficult to turn or if it is easier to turn, it chatters when it does. When you get to skis in the RX6 price point, you will find a ski that is stiff torsionally, but soft enough longitudinally to allow the skier to make easy turns.
I started skiing after the whole shape thing started. I bought a ski comparable the RX2 or RX4 and had a miserable time for the first couple of years. At a sale, I bought a ski a little more advanced - similar to today's RX6. The first day out, I found my standard blue incredibly easy and I spent the rest of the day on steeper blues and blacks with little effort.
I really think new skiers often start out with a budget so limited that they can not enjoy the sport.
post #3 of 11
The current RX-4 IS the original RX-6.

SJ
post #4 of 11
I have the older Rx4's at 165cm. I am the same ht/wt as you b-i-l. I now use them as my beginning/end of season skis because if they get nicks from rocks, etc... I do not mind. If he's skiing greens and venturing on the blues the Rx4 will be more than enough ski for him. Even if his competency grows the ski is fine for a few seasons. Dont spend the extra $$ for the Rx6's - put the money into lessons. I have Rx8's now. I demoed (sp?) 6's and 8's last season, and my two cents - the Rx6 should be renamed the Rx7 - it is much closer to the 8 than it is to the 4. My personal opinion about suggestions on this forum - people have 100% good intentions but assume skiing is everyones sole passion in life and expect people to ski 200 days per year and will "out-grow" any ski they buy after one season - there is also an assumption that everyone is striving to become the next Bodie Miller. Many people, myself included, are very happy skiing the steeper blues and the easy blakcs. I skied blues and easy blacks WITHOUT problems with older Rx4's for two seasons.

Just my .02 - I hope it helps.
post #5 of 11
When I purchased my RX6 this year I too was deciding between the 4 and 6. I am an intermediate as well. When I called the depot shop I was told that the difference between the 4 and 6 is very slight and subtle - the only real difference is a small layer of carbon in the ski that smooths out the ride. The advice I was given word was the RX6 will stick to the snow a tad better and be smoother where the RX4 will be a bit quicker and less stable at speed when turning. Other than that they are identical in all aspects. I was told an intermediate would be fine on either and even some advanced on a budget could use either in a longer length.
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the responses. I am pretty sure he would want a more forgiving easy ski. Definitely not a stiff pair. And I would think that a tighter turning ski might be helpful for him to feel more comfortable on edge. So the consensus is RX4 in 170 should be ok?
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
Thanks for the responses. I am pretty sure he would want a more forgiving easy ski. Definitely not a stiff pair. And I would think that a tighter turning ski might be helpful for him to feel more comfortable on edge. So the consensus is RX4 in 170 should be ok?

Hello,


I would think a 165 might be better for a tighter turn. The ski depot has this ski for only $259 with binding. All sizes are still available. http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...roduct_Count=3
post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
The current RX-4 IS the original RX-6.

SJ
Thanks, Jim. Obviously, I did not know that!
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 
Paul,

I am starting to think you might be right. I looked at the side cut radii calculator. 170 would be around 15.3m and 165 would be 14.4m 160 would be 13.6m. I think he would be best with something sub 15m.
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
Paul,

I am starting to think you might be right. I looked at the side cut radii calculator. 170 would be around 15.3m and 165 would be 14.4m 160 would be 13.6m. I think he would be best with something sub 15m.
Well, good luck. I would perhaps call the shop and ask them, or ask SieerraJim here if you have questions as I think he owns a ski shop.
post #11 of 11
I always look at the proper length for the skier and normally would suggest 170 for a 180 lb'er. Still, a slow or timid skier of that size might benefit from a shorter ski at least in the near term. I think it might be just barely possible to overthink the difference that a 2-3 foot tighter turn radius might make for a skier who will be skidding turns for the near future. FWIW the TR stenciled on the tail of a 170 cm RX-4 is 15M

If 170 turns out to be the size he goes for, we have them online for $199.

http://www.sierrasnowboard.com/Fisch...-FS-10-573.asp

SJ
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