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post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hi. Am considering these due to large "V" angle of my feet in normal stance. Age 55 maybe 8-9 level lifetime skier. Currently in 12-year old Technica's which fit well but do not have the 'Soma' feature, and are old-tech at this point. The HeatFire 115 looks about right for me. THANKS
post #2 of 6
They are top quality as far ski boots go. Fischer has a lot of different models with different flexes and different last widths. For the last several seasons I've been in Fischer Soma RC4 Race and previously the Fischer MX-Pro. (the MX-Pro proved too wide for my feet's liking and Fischer has now softened the MX-Pro Flex a little further).

After skiing for years in Flexons I thought I'd try a four buckle boot when Kneissl stopped producing the Flexon (who would have guessed they'd be back several seasons later as Full-Tilt). At all events, while Flexon's lateral stiffness is good, the Fischer RC4 Race (which is neither a plug or semi-plug boot but rather is really suitable for everyday, all day, type of skiing) is more responsive in that regard. Anyway, each company's boots have their special virtues.

I'd say try the Fischer boots. If they don't prove to be the boot for you, some Nordica and Atomic boots have a greater than average V stance built into their boot lasts. However, they approach the issue somewhat differently from Fischer.

Welcome to Epic Ski.
post #3 of 6
I've spoken with a race coach (former U.S. ski team tech coach) who's also a Fischer fan. He says the Soma-tec boots work OK for bowlegged guys, but he doesn't recommend them for others.

I'm somewhat duckfooted like you. The common cause is over pronation, and is best handled with properly made semi-rigid* footbeds. These footbeds are "posted" with a wedge-shaped base that properly corrects the inward roll of the ankle.

*"Pronation is an important foot function and should be not eliminated, but controlled. Such early, unsuccessful experiments with full [rigid] arch support tended to discredit the general strategy. Now, the full arch support strategy has been revived using modern thermoplastic support materials. This allows for creation of custom supports with the proper blend of rigidity for control and flexibility for limited pronatory function and comfort."
post #4 of 6
"V" stance type boots are not recommended for knock-kneed people. However, the majority of skiers are, in fact, duck-footed. It's all a matter of degree. Foot beds can do good things including some correction for pronation or supination which are several aspects of stance. They are by no means the entire answer for stance issues or there would not be true canting (sole planning or under binding wedges) or "V" stance boots. Almost all ski boots have a limited "V" built in as a nod to the fact that most people are somewhat duck footed in their stance.

Atomic, Fischer and Nordica just take it further with some of their models. Fischer approaches the "V" stance differently than most by starting the "V" under the tibial axis instead of from the back of the heel. In the Fischer line the "V" angle increases as you move up the boot line. The top racing models have the most pronounced angle. Certainly they are not for everyone-even top racers. Nonetheless, there a lot of racers in Fischer, Atomic and Nordica boots that have a greater than average V stance built in.

Anyway, personally I'd go ahead and try a pair on or ask further questions of your bootfitter or post questions in the "Ask the Boot Guys" section of the this forum. Some of the country's top bootfitters post here and they can provide more authoritative answers than I can.
Good luck.
post #5 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thx for both answers. To Soft Snow Guy, I have for years built up the arch side of the footbed, as that tends to rotate the tibia and knee more in line with the boot. However, I am so duck-footed that this solution is only partially successful, and leads to other problems (extreme pressure on the outside of the foot).
post #6 of 6
I'm really happy with my Fischer boots, I've still got the old 9000 ti race, which was sold as consumer boot but in fact more of a plug than most semi-plugs out there. It's built like a tank so I think it will last plenty long (maybe as long as my Raichle Snowboard hardboots which after 300+ days still do well, though needed many parts replaced).

If your an overpronator, Fischer boots provide an answer. They were designed mostly by Herbert Auer, and Christhoph Leitner who are probabely the most prominent bootfitters for worldcup skiers and snowboarders (esp. Leitner). So the V was not invented for marketing but their opinion on how boots should look like (it was first sold under the Rexxon brand before they moved to Fischer - production is at Garmont). Besides the V Fischer boots flex in a slightly different direction than other boots, which makes a difference too.

The newer boots are way softer than the old 9000 liner, but the Worldcup Pro is still plenty soft. In Austria loads of unsponsored racers switched over to Fischer boots, and they replaced Atomic as being the most popular boot for amateur racers it seems to me. The good thing is that the Heat and RC4 line is one of the very few boot lines for narrow feet which is not stiff like semi-plugs or plugs.

Taking into account that Fischer doesn't require its racers to use the boots, most of them moved to them by now and that didn't seem to hinder their performance. Niki Hosp who won the worldcup last year has been in Somatec boots custom made by Leitner since her youth (first Custom cutten, then Rexxon now Fischer) and she's not sponsored by Fischer. What I heard is that Fischer doesn't make that much money on the boots (compared to skis) as they are OEM from Garmont, therefore they supposedly don't pay any racer to use them unless they ski on Fischer skis too.

Try any of the Heatfire or RC4 models. They are indifferent except for the color options. The liners are pretty much the same throughout the whole range too, only the flex numbers make the difference.

There are 4 different shells by Fischer in total. 1. the Worldcup Pro. 2. RC4/Heat, 3. The Soma MX-Pro and MX boot got a different shell, and 4. the lowlevel MX 5/7 again got a different even wider shell.
1. and 2. are pretty new, while 3. and 4. are still the same from the beginning.
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