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post #1 of 14
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What do you guys think of this demo:

http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/ugokusj/0502/01.html
post #2 of 14
It does not show up for me.
post #3 of 14
Are those bullfighter turns?
post #4 of 14
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It does not show up for me.
I'm not surprised since its a japanese site I believe and you need to install their characters but I just answered no multiple times and finally after a long wait it came on.

Max LOL.... he sure looks more like a picador than a skier. What is he demoing? Any clue. At least he gets his skis engaged early on in the turn. Maybe this is a japanese version of the two footed release . Maybe it has something to do with mogul skiing....
post #5 of 14
practice for wedeln?
post #6 of 14
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practice for wedeln?
Like a jet-turn.... this is a drill so there must be a video of the final turn.... lets see what we can find here:
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/ugokusj/

WOW, take a look at this:
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/ugokusj/0709/index.html

Theres some awsome stuff on WC skiing that really stands out and shines. Good montages on redirection, pre turn pivot and ski rebound. Way to go Japan .
post #7 of 14
It works!

Tthat is how to turn the skis by using your core. Note how square the hips remain to the skis throughout that extremely short turn.
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WOW, take a look at this:
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/ugokusj/0709/index.html

Theres some awsome stuff on WC skiing that really stands out and shines. Good montages on redirection, pre turn pivot and ski rebound. Way to go Japan .
Nice work! We could have used those in a recent thread.
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It works!

Tthat is how to turn the skis by using your core. Note how square the hips remain to the skis throughout that extremely short turn.
But at the same time I see some smooth counteraction although he needs to keep his upper body rotated in to the turn in order to anchor his skipoles to the snow. Kind of like a corkscrew. What is disturbing to me is that he starts off extended and sinks down towards the end of the turn. I think this is part of a typical up-unweight progression which has been a very popular ski school technique to teach in our part of the world and why I got crappy grades at my exams. I must try it out. Im sure it can be done from a flexed to a extended to a flexed position.
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WOW, take a look at this:
http://www.skichannel.ne.jp/ugokusj/0709/index.html

Theres some awesome stuff on WC skiing that really stands out and shines. Good montages on redirection, pre turn pivot and ski rebound. Way to go Japan .
So going back and looking at bib numbers, I reckon those clips are:
1. (#7)Svindal (#12)Sasaki
2. (red bib)Raich (#31)Hirscher
3. (#23)Kucera (#10)Chenal
4. (#2)Blardone (#15)Reichelt
post #11 of 14
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But at the same time I see some smooth counteraction although he needs to keep his upper body rotated in to the turn in order to anchor his skipoles to the snow. Kind of like a corkscrew. What is disturbing to me is that he starts off extended and sinks down towards the end of the turn. I think this is part of a typical up-unweight progression which has been a very popular ski school technique to teach in our part of the world and why I got crappy grades at my exams. I must try it out. Im sure it can be done from a flexed to a extended to a flexed position.
I believe the flexion is to reduce pressure so he can continue to turn the skis.
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I believe the flexion is to reduce pressure so he can continue to turn the skis.
Do you think they look like that when linked together?
post #13 of 14
Yes, I think they will look very similar to CSIA turns.
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Yes, I think they will look very similar to CSIA turns.
Its funny you should mention that because some of our national ski instructors ski like that and I saw the similarities with CSIA instruktors straight away when I saw the videos. Great skiing by CSIA on the videos and especially on the dynamic parallel turns but as soon as they backed off a bit that strange flexing pattern appeared. Are you CSIA trained?
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