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Which one?

post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 
Head 06/07 Monster iM 88 Sw Skis 175cm

or

Icelantic 2008 Pilgrim Park/Powder Skis 169cm

I live on the east coast. I go out west once a year. I am 5'10" 220lbs. I am looking for a wider ski for the glades and deeper snow days. I have a mid fat (K2 Recons).

Any help?

I have ruled out the magnums that I was considering. Too much overlap with my Eastern narrow quiver.
post #2 of 12
My first pick would be the Head IM88, because its got a following and you KNOW it won't disappoint.
However, after reading more about the Icelantic, and seeing what its target market is,....................I think you should go for it. Get the Icelantic! At 90 in the waist, it will definitely take you away from overlap. The specific purpose of this ski is to carve it up on icy conditions while it performs in the park, and handles powder and crud days adequately.

Sometimes you have to get something "outside the box"

Do it!
post #3 of 12
They are mighty different. I'd say you are making an apples to oranges comparison in terms of intended use. The Pilgrim is the only one of Icelantic's skis that is supposed to be soft (and the only model I did not ski last year - so it is hearsay). IN marked contrast to the Head.

For you, the better comparison would be the iM88 vs the Icelantic Nomad 168cm. I do not ski the east at all, but personally I'd grab the Nomad in a heartbeat for all around use. I played with the shorter one last year under a range of conditions and it was surprisingly burly and versatile. To generalize a bit - it was the kind of stiff the 88 is. Arced like hell on groomers. Held OK on what we call hardpack out here. It was just too short for my tastes. The 168 is sort of getting there. I hope to get a chance to test drive that length sooner rather than later. But if it handles like the short one, it should be fun.

As usual, some searching here and at TGR will get you some first hand comments on the Icelantics in general.
post #4 of 12
Spindrift, I think, from an earlier thread by puckit, the Head IM88 would be closer to overlap for his current quiver, though not an actual overlap. The icelantic would be something completely different from anything he currently has. This is good? No?
post #5 of 12
I am suggesting puckit look at the Nomad. I think it would be more interesting than the 88 - and probably more versatile than the 175 88. And more useful for someone his weight (about my weight) than the Pilgrim. For the stated goals in this thread, I think it is a good candidate. Just my .02
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
I am suggesting puckit look at the Nomad. I think it would be more interesting than the 88 - and probably more versatile than the 175 88. And more useful for someone his weight (about my weight) than the Pilgrim. For the stated goals in this thread, I think it is a good candidate. Just my .02
You are far more knowledgeable about this line of skis than I am. Puck it would be wise to take a look.
post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by spindrift View Post
I am suggesting puckit look at the Nomad. I think it would be more interesting than the 88 - and probably more versatile than the 175 88. And more useful for someone his weight (about my weight) than the Pilgrim. For the stated goals in this thread, I think it is a good candidate. Just my .02
The 175 im88 is a nice all mountain ski. Its more of a crud ski actually. For a bigger guy its not enough float to be really maneuverable at lower speeds when the snow gets deep. I would think a nomad would be much more maneuverable in the tight trees with soft snow at safer speeds.

If you think the nomad would be a good ski for you it might be good to look at other short freeride skis. I would be curious how a nomad compares to a 168|176 gotama or 176 Katana or a B100 in like 173 or a 171 Scott P4.
post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 
Level Nine guys are steering to the pilgrim still based on my conversation with them. It will be more effective in different conditions.
post #9 of 12
Well, to each their own. While I have not skied the Pilgrims, I can't imagine they would have the versatility of the 168 Nomad (which I'm extrapolating from my experience on the shorter ones). At least not for someone our weight.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Bought them.

Ordered the 168cm Nomads with a LD12 Railflex.
post #11 of 12
Its about time!!!
I was waiting on pins and needles! :
post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 
Went up to Mt Sunapee in NH. It is only about 1.25 hours from the house and they were predicting 6-8" of freshies. I arrived about 9:30AM(a little late for me) usually get the front row but not today. So here is the review.

The ski has LD 12 on the Railflex 2 on them with the 1115mm brakes. I skied the first run down a lower mountain travel to catch the HSQ. The skis tracked well on the first section of the run. I lean them over on edge a little and they started to hook up very well. The bottom part of the run is a gentle slope and some what tracked up. I let the skis run at this point and they were very stable. They rode through the pile of powder without a hiccup. I then rode the HSQ to hit the Sun Bowl. This was the pay day. I was able to find untracked areas here. They floated through the untracked powder very well about 10" here. As the day went the runs were getting tracked out and piles were starting to emerge on the runs. They blasted right through mounds and also rode over them. My Recons would not have done this. I did get to them done a run that did not have very much powder and with a decent pitch. They were absolutely awesome on it. They were very stable at the high speeds I was at on this run. The ski definitely does not mind setting an edge and running. It was actually decent a making GS turns and does ski longer. I also set the LD12 back on the railflex too and did feel much better after that adjustment.

I may sell my Recons now that I have these.

The only down side was there were some areas of hard packed man made. They did not do very well. I do not think this would be an everyday ski for the EC skier, but will be a fun ski to pair with a narrower waist ski and make a two ski quiver.

I will update more when I get to ski it in trees. I could have the other day but I did not want to ruin the bases of a brand new pair.

The Nomads were the right choice over the Pilgrims for me and the length is right. I will post pics next to the rest of the quiver soon.

My recommendation is you have to get a pair of these.
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