Originally Posted by therusty
If you've been up the Cottonwood Canyon roads enough, you understand where Lonnie is coming from. Many times (most?), they don't close the roads until after the slide. I don't even live there and I had one split and cross the road both in front and behind me. I've also seen a bus that was pushed over the side. You know, it's enough to get your attention.
Uh, I was responding to a wise-ass remark with a wise-ass remark. To spell it out in painful fashion, my question "How many people get beacons and then wear them only inbounds? Human nature being what it is, I suspect pretty few" addresses the fact that in reality, many people who plan on staying inbounds may end up tempted into sidecountry excursions even if they don't initially plan on doing so, due to it's easy accessibility, if they reason they "already have (at least some of) the gear (even if they have no idea how to use it)." Also referred to as the "transceiver trap." Last I checked LCC and nearby areas actually sees its share of stupidity as it is, so just assuming all these people will be beeping only inbounds and therefore don't need to train or practice is at least an issue to discuss...not to mention personally I'd feel, not good, if I were around a slide and hadn't the slightest idea what to do with this beacon thingie that I had...in my pack...
Rather than engage the point, it seems someone wanted to deflect it by stating the fact that he wore a beacon on the road, too, in answer to my asking how many would wear them only inbounds (he doesn't mention if it's turned on, but we do know he wears it while driving). So, I noted I was duly impressed.
As to the substantive issue of training, whether Level I vs. other types of education are needed has been discussed at length elsewhere, this is probably not the thread or the forum for it.
To spell out the pack point, don't put the thing in your pack, it's not only stupid but someone could also waste time digging out your pack after it's been pulled off of you that they could have spent finding and digging out someone bright enough to wear the thing.
Would've thought some of these issues were present in Jackson, too, in fact I know they are...