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Bindings for Völkl Wall?

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
Hey!

What bindings would you mount on a Völkl Wall?

Marker 11.0 Free goes with the buy for an extra fee, but I'm not sure I will accept it..

Thank you in advance!

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Kasper
post #2 of 25
Don't put the 11.0 on it.

Not because it's a Marker, because that is a very basic, recreational level binding with a simple heel. There are better choices. If you are going Marker, Salomon or Tyrolia make sure it's a three piece heel design.
post #3 of 25
I'm getting the volkl wall aswell and am also thinking about what bindings to get.. i think that marker jesters would be the best but are seriously expensive.. im considering salomon sth 12 aswell because im a light skiier..
post #4 of 25
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Originally Posted by Twig View Post
I'm getting the volkl wall aswell and am also thinking about what bindings to get.. i think that marker jesters would be the best but are seriously expensive.. im considering salomon sth 12 aswell because im a light skiier..
Yeah exactly, and Völkl even recommend Markers. I was also thinking at jesters or duke, but they are both too expensive.. And I heard that Markers suck
post #5 of 25
Duke's on a park ski, really? That's a waste of money and dukes are heavy. Definitely skip the dukes.
post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 
hehe ok What about the Marker 12.0 then? Aren't wide brakes just for powderskiing?
post #7 of 25
I'm guessing wide brakes are for any ski that is too wide for regular brakes.. the M12 is recommended at the shop i get my skis from but they do have a fairly **** rap on here.. the reason volkl recomend marker is because they are part of the same company group.. where are you getting yours mounted im not sure whether to centre mount or not..
post #8 of 25
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
hehe ok What about the Marker 12.0 then? Aren't wide brakes just for powderskiing?
Wide brakes have nothing to do with what you're skiing, just how wide the ski is. The only purpose of the wide brake is to make sure the brakes are wider than the ski waist, so that the brakes can lower correctly. Now, powder skis, by virtue of being fat, are going to need wide (or extra wide) brakes, but you don't need to worry about where you're going to ski, the only thing is to make sure the brakes are wide enough to clear the waist of the ski, and you're good.
post #9 of 25
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Originally Posted by Twig View Post
I'm guessing wide brakes are for any ski that is too wide for regular brakes.. the M12 is recommended at the shop i get my skis from but they do have a fairly **** rap on here.. the reason volkl recomend marker is because they are part of the same company group.. where are you getting yours mounted im not sure whether to centre mount or not..
Of course they should be mounted in the center of the ski. Otherwise the whole Wall idea is ruined.. The ski is exactly the same from back to front to make the weight more equal when e.g. sliding a rail.
post #10 of 25
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
Of course they should be mounted in the center of the ski. Otherwise the whole Wall idea is ruined.. The ski is exactly the same from back to front to make the weight more equal when e.g. sliding a rail.
I think that is not entirely true i was under the impression that while the shape of the ski is symetrical the flex pattern is different in the tip and tail.. I might be wrong about this but since the Wall is designed to be a park and pipe ski it seems likely the tail would be stiffer and more poppy...
post #11 of 25
Does that mean I can go with the wide brakes for my Völkl Wall or do I need the normal one?
Does it make any difference?
post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by Hrvig View Post
Does that mean I can go with the wide brakes for my Völkl Wall or do I need the normal one?
Does it make any difference?
I'd like to know as well
And!
There are two crosses on the ski - one says "absolut center" and one says "boot center".. What does this mean?
post #13 of 25
"absolut center" would be the mounting point if you are going to use the ski to slide rails and ski backwards a lot. "boot center" is the more traditional mounting point for skis in general and would be best if you are using the ski as more of just an all mountain ski. Doing both split the difference.
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
So if it is to be an only park ski I should mount at absolut center? But what about the binding.. Can I use both with wide breaks and without?
post #15 of 25
If its pure park ski, mount it true centre but it will affect how it rides! The factory boot centre is not at true centre! I'm possibly getting the wall and will mount it at just back from true centre (i think) because i prefer pipe riding to rails.. that said i might splash out on Pipe Cleaners instead.. as ridiculous as it seems a different mount point is ideal for different types of park riding..rails = centre, jumps = centre or just back, pipe = bit further back.. thats how i like things anyway.. as for wide brakes.. the wall is going to be about 88-89 mm at the break point so wide brakes will be fine, you could also bend a regular brake i would think..
post #16 of 25
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
But what about the binding.. Can I use both with wide breaks and without?
For the Wall, you will need wide brakes depending on the actual binding you use. For example, the Look PX12 with normal brakes will fit up to 80mm skis, and with the wide brake will fit 80-100mm skis. So, with the Wall at 87mm, you would either want to get wide brakes or bend the normal brakes a little bit. Any binding you're looking at should tell you what width skis it will fit on, and that will tell you if the bindings will fit or not.
post #17 of 25
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
For the Wall, you will need wide brakes depending on the actual binding you use. For example, the Look PX12 with normal brakes will fit up to 80mm skis, and with the wide brake will fit 80-100mm skis. So, with the Wall at 87mm, you would either want to get wide brakes or bend the normal brakes a little bit. Any binding you're looking at should tell you what width skis it will fit on, and that will tell you if the bindings will fit or not.
But the marker 12 free wide brakes says 110mm.. Will this fit the Wall when they're only about 86mm?
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
But the marker 12 free wide brakes says 110mm.. Will this fit the Wall when they're only about 86mm?
It will *fit*, but is wider than it needs to be. Really the only problem with brakes that are too wide, is that the brakes could catch on the snow when you put the ski up on edge, depending on how much too wide they are. Is 110 too wide for an 86mm ski? I'm honestly not sure, I've never seen a brake that wide on a ski with those dimensions to see how far out it actually sticks. However, the marker 12 free does have a 90mm brake available, if you want to go that route.
post #19 of 25
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Originally Posted by jaobrien6 View Post
It will *fit*, but is wider than it needs to be. Really the only problem with brakes that are too wide, is that the brakes could catch on the snow when you put the ski up on edge, depending on how much too wide they are. Is 110 too wide for an 86mm ski? I'm honestly not sure, I've never seen a brake that wide on a ski with those dimensions to see how far out it actually sticks. However, the marker 12 free does have a 90mm brake available, if you want to go that route.
So shouldn't I just go standard marker 12.0 free? NO WIDE..?
post #20 of 25
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
Yeah exactly, and Völkl even recommend Markers. I was also thinking at jesters or duke, but they are both too expensive.. And I heard that Markers suck
AT in the pipe and park..... not unless you are doing some late night poaching when the lifts aren't running. come to think of it, that might be fun.
post #21 of 25
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Originally Posted by Que View Post
AT in the pipe and park..... not unless you are doing some late night poaching when the lifts aren't running. come to think of it, that might be fun.
AT? What is that, and can it be bought in Europe?
post #22 of 25

if....

If you don't have to skin a lengthy distance = survive the skinning in some Trekkers...or simply hike it, I found a pretty good price online for Salomon's STH 16s....written up as, & seems like, a nice lightweight and solid binding.
~36hrs & counting...
post #23 of 25
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Originally Posted by HaveSkisWillClimb View Post
If you don't have to skin a lengthy distance = survive the skinning in some Trekkers...or simply hike it, I found a pretty good price online for Salomon's STH 16s....written up as, & seems like, a nice lightweight and solid binding.
~36hrs & counting...
link please What is its destination?
post #24 of 25
Thread Starter 
Will Rossignol Axial2 140 work on Völkl Wall? or what about the Look FX12 Ti?
Do all freeride bindings work on Völkl wall as long as the brake is wide enough?
post #25 of 25
Put Look, rossi, PX12's. Px12 Jibs, they are basically all the same. Try not to get lifters though. On a ski like you want to mount the binding close to the ski, aka no lifter.
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