"To much ILE and you are pushing out the tail more than you want to."?
What I mean by getting some tail push if you're not careful is exactly that. Push too hard and you can compromise your edge and result in pushing the tail. This is why HH is so dead against ILE as a flat absolute answer. I don't agree with him entirely though. I think ILE can be very useful and should be available to me, but much care is needed to avoid overdoing it.
It might be possible to move your COM across using almost exclusively ILE, though that is not a good way to do it, I'm sure you would agree. Most likely that results in a pop extension, which results in an unweight, followed by a bad turn.
|In my books, OLR means OLR -- the CM is released because the outside leg is relaxed. In ILE, the CM is released becase the inside leg is extended. (Call it toppling if you must, but really, it's just release). This grey area is where I have considerable trouble.|
But I think there is grey. When you release with OLR, your COM moves across at a speed that is dictated by the laws of physics. Just take that alone for a minute. If your OLR is perfectly 100%, then there is some pendulum speed determined by the laws of physics that determines how fast your COM will move across into the new turn simply by changing the balance point through a perfect OLR. However, consider what it means to have a perfect OLR release. That means that leg is rubber. Dead. No weight on it. Like knocking the leg out from under a chair. It is certainly well possible to only remove a certain percentage of your weight from that leg through muscle relaxation, which will result in a "weighted release". However, that will also result in a slower crossover without some help from ILE. The balance point change is not as drastic.
Maybe you don't need the help to get across faster in a certain transition, maybe you do...but there are many shades of grey in between by combining different levels of OLR (relaxation of that leg) with different levels of ILE force(pushing down with the other leg). What we do know is that you spread the load of your weight and G's onto two legs and some amount of muscle control will effect how much weight is on one leg or the other, combined with the changing forces due to physics as your balance point changes.
Sadly, some people don't use enough OLR, which results in them having to use too much ILE to move across, and often requiring even worse, a pop extension. But its not really fair or true in my view to say that it must be all of one or the other. People are probably using varying degrees of both in many/most situations.
|Take the transition speed thing. Isn't what is actually slowing the transition that both skis are weighted? Then what you are calling a mix of ILE and OLR is nothing more than simultaneaous extending and flexing.|
Relaxing the muscles will be like knocking out the leg from under a chair...instant change in balance point. I am of the opinion that the focus should be on relaxing and controlling the amount of relaxation...while the amount of flexing is a "result" of what happens as the COM moves across and other skiing factors...not so much as a movement to create a release. Simply relaxing that leg creates the release. Flexing it is what you are going to have to do as your COM moves that way, in order to shorten the leg and keep it out of the way of your COM. Its also mentally difficult to relax your leg without flexing it at the same time, which is one reason I think people tend to equate flexing with relaxing. But it does not necessarily need to be so. You can bend your leg easily while still carrying the same level of weight, and you can relax it without flexing, though in reality, relaxing your leg will result in your limbs moving into a more relaxed, flexed position, not FULLY extended,
Likewise, I prefer to think of ILE as more of a movement that takes place as my COM topples across and I'm extending that leg to keep it on the snow as my COM falls down the hill and moves away from the leg in question.
However, there is no reason in my mind to assume that some small amount of actually pushing might sometimes be beneficial. Nonetheless, that is normally not MY focus because I know that if I push too hard I can easily destroy my edge, particularly in ice. However, should it not be an available option?
However, regardless of all that; for me one factor that remains in my mind a lot is that I know that standing on flexed legs is a vulnerable position to be in. If I am unweighted, then fine. If I am not unweighted, then every time I stand my weight on a flexed leg, I shorten my ski day. I'm not talking about big G forces here like are present later in the turn. I'm talking about just my own body weight. In the transition and high-C, you're not dealing with much in the way of G forces, but you still have to stand on your body weight. If you're doing it standing on a flexed leg, then you're working too hard.
If you are transferring your body weight and support of G forces from one extended leg to the other from turn to turn, then one key is to get that weight transferred from one extendedleg to the other with as little time as possible supported by flexed legs. You can only be weightless for a very short period of time in a medium to large radius turn.
If you think, on the other hand, that you need to relax your old outside ski, wait for it to flex down a ways until it matches your old inside leg and only then start to extend your new outside leg...well, frankly I think there are many situations where you are working too hard like that by virtue of allowing your quad muscles to have to support your weight while flexed.
An effective release will make it so that normally, very little or no ILE pushing is needed to move the COM across, however, that leg can easily be extended more pro-actively, not withstanding. That can result in the "up and over" look that we can observe in many skiers, including WC. Just because they are going up and over, does not mean they are doing a pop extension or using too much ILE. In my mind it can mean they are carefully managing the blending of OLR and ILE so that they transition exactly at the speed they need to; and minimize the amount of time they spend lingering with flexed legs to support the forces, without compromising their new outside edge by pushing on it too hard or popping.
The reality is that the OLR will provide enough weightless float period for me to get quite a bit of ILE happening during the crossover. By the time I'm standing on that new outside leg again, its already well on its way to being extended. It is NOT necessary, in my view to find yourself with both legs flexed before gingerly extending the new outside leg. Early ILE can most definitely be combined, earlier and in conjunction with aggressive OLR.
Still not clear? Still think I'm wacked...?