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post #31 of 53
I saw it on Nov 9 with my teenage son and enjoyed it. Good clean fun from Whistler, Sweden, Aspen, Japan, Dubai, Alaska, etc. With a wide variety of snowriding personages, young and old, from Bode to unknowns. Good job by Jonny Moseley on narration, think he's got a permanent gig. The skier (MacIntosh) who got hung up in tree upside down over a cliff deserves a bonus.:
Anybody who thinks it ran 20 minutes too long is in the wrong theatre!
post #32 of 53
I'm sorry but that movie was terrible. It was just flashes of mediocre skiing. The music selection was incredibly predictable and uninventive...poppy punk music trying to make the movie seem hip. The only decent segments were the Jon Olson Invitational and the parachute skiing segment.

If you want to see a good ski film, go see MSP's Seven Sunny Days, or TGR's Lost and Found. Better yet, go pickup a DVD from one of the even lesser known companies like Level 1 or Rage Films who don't even have a budget to tour but posses real talent in their skiers and directors. In any case spend your 20 bucks on a film whose athletes and producers make an effort to progress the sport of skiing rather than just get you to buy a pair of Crocks. I can't stand that in Boston, Warren Miller sells out 8 shows and MSP barely gets enough people to make it worth their while to stop in Boston.

Warren Miller, without the man himself at the helm has become nothing more than a garbage marketing machine that simply steels ideas, filming techniques and athletes from other companies once they have been proven successful. They sit on their advantageous position in the market, take no risk, and in the end, provide no real value to the skiing world.
post #33 of 53
Went and saw it last night, besides the highlight of watching a kid you taught in ski school ripping it up on the big screen, it was well...average.
post #34 of 53
We already reviewed it once here:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=61231
post #35 of 53
I sold tickets to the film this weekend for the benefit of our ski team and watched it Friday.

Product placement way more subtle than in the past. But really repetitive, felt like they are hung up on Alaska and places with camels. Nice segment about skiing in Japan, though. Segment on Bode got me hoping for more, but they let it peter out into "why did they put this in?" I also spent a lot of time wondering why teenage boys WANT their butt cheeks poking out of their ski pants, since we got to see a lot of boxer shorts.
post #36 of 53
I saw the film, and I have to say it was the worst Warren Miller I have seen to date. I agree that it seemed a little too MTVish. I kept waiting for it to get better. The scene that was shot in Japan was my personal favorite. I get that Warren has obviously retired, but don't try to push Johnny Mosley on Warren's audiences.
post #37 of 53
Warren Miller was a rich experience the first ten or fifteen years he did this thing. He was there to narrate them himself, he was very funny, his films had so many things in them that we hadn't seen before (and might not ever have without the films). You laughed, you cried, you felt the warmth of late-in-the-day lodge fireplaces present there in the cinema with you, as well as the over-fluffed-up down-coated shoulders (and hearts) of the people in the seats all around you... By the time you left you not only wanted to drive directly to your ski area and wait for it to start snowing for the year, but you'd really had a fascinating evening, a full rich experience for no other reason than the sheer delight, amazement, and fun of it.
Sometimes when we go on too long (or in this case FAR too long) with something that we once loved and felt very personal and special about...
It's a ritual to go to these now. We (except this year was the last one for me) go to this because we go to this. It's a running cliche of itself. Bigger, better, more has run out a long time ago. We've seen all these passages and players a dozen (if not a thousand) times. MTV shots and MTV shots and MTV shots and the MASSIVE application of obscene amounts of money and equipment (and work) to get a little 'nother clever angle on a two-thousand foot cliff jump... Two hours of shreikingthrobbing brain-numbing "music" that none of us would actually listen to any other time, God forbid actually try to figure out the words to (bring your earplugs sportsfans, your chest IS going to be thumped with sound). It's for adrenaline-addicted, money's-no-object, I-can-do-fourteen-1080's-at-a-time-and-you-can't, spoiled rotten twelve year olds now. Do we want to notice?
Rocky Horror Picture Show on snow. Everyone in the audience knows the lines, knows the order of every scene and sequence...
Thanks, Warren, for something that once was indeed very personal and special, a genuine treasure for those few who knew. We loved you and we loved what you gave us. Good night to all that. Long may it wave.

Peter
Boise, Idaho (most recently)
post #38 of 53
Good grief, could someone consolodate these threads, and give a 20 second seminar on thread searches!
post #39 of 53
the movie was average, but worth it to see Bode skiing on Lange boots in training for no other reason than i can now tell the local HEAD rep "told you so"...
post #40 of 53
I will say that the para-skiing segment was killer... Best part of the movie. As far as what would make it better... Not sure. It just didn't tweak me the way it has in the past. The old aerials sequence has been replaced by jibber stuff, and I'm equally bored with it. Some of my favorite old stuff were the sequences from Squaw with Hattrup, Schmidt, Plake, and so on, as well as all the really gnarly stuff from Chamonix. I miss that kind of stuff - the "extreme skiing" movies from the late 80's. THAT was good stuff. "Too MTV-ish" -- yep, that's as good a description as any.

Still a decent flic, but just not up to par with some of the other recent ones. TGR & Matchstick put out a superior product. Withthat said, when it comes out on DVD next year, I'm sure I'll buy it.
post #41 of 53
OOPS! Typing and drinking. Somehow I thought this was the third thread to whip this horse.
post #42 of 53
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OOPS! Typing and drinking. Somehow I thought this was the third thread to whip this horse.
You'll be alright. Just ignore them from now on.
post #43 of 53
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We already reviewed it once here:
http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=61231
Can I TGR him???

SEARCH FUNCTION, JONG!!!!
post #44 of 53
I found the move a little slow in a few spots. Not the best work they have done.
post #45 of 53
This now sets the record for the most redundant topic post....... MODERATOR PLEASE..... It has just occured to me that this movie is a GAPER TRAP.... (it must be because I'm seeing it Nov. 30....)
post #46 of 53
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Originally Posted by bszekely View Post
Warren Miller, without the man himself at the helm has become nothing more than a garbage marketing machine that simply steels ideas, filming techniques and athletes from other companies once they have been proven successful. They sit on their advantageous position in the market, take no risk, and in the end, provide no real value to the skiing world.
Righhhht ..... whatever :
post #47 of 53
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Righhhht ..... whatever :
If you do'nt believe me, go watch a Poor Boyz Film like 'Ski Porn' and then go watch 'Off the Grid' and you'll see repeated footage, and I guarantee its not the small talented film producers buying from WME.

Since Warren Miller ended his involvement with the films, rarely the very best skiers are involved. If they are involved, its for a very brief moment. That should say something: No Seth Morrison, Shane McConkey, Ingrid Backstrom, Tanner Hall, Simon Dumont, CR Johnson, Sage Cattabriga....I could go on.

And for the record, I'm not anti-WM. Journey and Storm are two of my favorite films in my collection of over 40.
post #48 of 53
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If you do'nt believe me, ....

Since Warren Miller ended his involvement with the films, rarely the very best skiers are involved. If they are involved, its for a very brief moment.
That's not my point ... my objection is your characterization of WMP. Dude, there was some real venom in your words! Beating the crap out of WMP because, to use your words, they "simply steal ideas, filming techniques and athletes from other companies once they have been proven successful" seems counter to the promotion of skiing and the sport.

I'm not toting their water or any film producer's for that matter, but I am interested in promoting skiing. Taking my kids to see "Playground" is about promotion of skiing, to serve as a source of inspiration for them ... not get all lathered up as to who's the better producer.

Right now, WMP is the only show that comes to town, but I'll take the step and look into some of the ones you mentioned ... as I stated earlier, I'm all about skiing, learning and promoting skiing.
post #49 of 53
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Originally Posted by Dorm57 View Post
That's not my point ... my objection is your characterization of WMP. Dude, there was some real venom in your words! Beating the crap out of WMP because, to use your words, they "simply steal ideas, filming techniques and athletes from other companies once they have been proven successful" seems counter to the promotion of skiing and the sport.

I'm not toting their water or any film producer's for that matter, but I am interested in promoting skiing. Taking my kids to see "Playground" is about promotion of skiing, to serve as a source of inspiration for them ... not get all lathered up as to who's the better producer.

Right now, WMP is the only show that comes to town, but I'll take the step and look into some of the ones you mentioned ... as I stated earlier, I'm all about skiing, learning and promoting skiing.
Point well taken and It's definitely awesome that you take your kids to see the WM films. I agree that promoting skiing is the foremost goal of all this. If I sound particularly pissed at WMP its because, as I said, they have a huge audience based on years of incredible films (through 'Journey' I would say), and they seem to take that for granted, showing little innovation or creativity.
post #50 of 53

I liked it

I like The Playground. I think it was much better than last years film, which had too many sponsor plugs. It covered alot of different topics and places and it was the only ski move I've seen lately that had a segment about alpine ski racing.
And I hope everyone enjoyed the dessert in-door skiing segment, beacuse "WE ALL" are paying for it if you know what I mean.

The other ski movies I've seen lately have had too much "park" and not enough "skiing".

... now if we could only get some snow ...
post #51 of 53
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Good grief, could someone consolodate these threads, and give a 20 second seminar on thread searches!
There were two but I merged them. Let me know if there are more that I missed.
post #52 of 53
I'm not expecting much from Playground, but I'm going to see it tomorrow night with my little sister.
It will be a nice night out with some of the usual giveaways.
There is a movie trailer for it on this Ski club home page

post #53 of 53
The show comes to my town this Sat:, was thinking about wearing my ski boots and helmet to the show:, this isn't tooooo over the top, is it:, oh and the :,at intermission or maybe . Have fun ,ya'll.
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