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edge/base tool for traveling

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Any good tools for traveling with? I wanted something I can just debur or do quick fixes when traveling (flying, not driving).
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A Tools4Boards Razor or Xact will do both side and base edge work. If you don't need to do base edge beveling with a guide, the Diaface guide is a handy & inexpensive pocket tool for side edge sharpening & polishing for 70 mm Moonflex diamonds:

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thanks much!
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Do RED still make the dial-a-side bevel?

Hmm. Here it is:
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For travelling, I just take a fine diamond stone and a medium one as well. And I just sharpen the skiis by hand. It doesn't take long to get the feel for it. I try to take off as little metal as possible to get the job done. I usually only do bevelling, etc. with more tools and a ski vice.
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
A Tools4Boards Razor or Xact will do both side and base edge work. If you don't need to do base edge beveling with a guide, the Diaface guide is a handy & inexpensive pocket tool for side edge sharpening & polishing for 70 mm Moonflex diamonds:
Considering that they're made by the same company, are the same price, and perform the same functions, is there a significant difference between the two tools? Which would you recommend?

Sorry for more dumb questions, but which diamonds/stones would you recommend to go along with those tools? As a newbie who's just looking for something to keep my edges sharp, the options seem a little overwhelming.
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As an aside, another benefit of mult-angled guides is the can be used to measure angles, coupled with a Sharpie or other marker:

To measure your existing angles, you can mark the edges with a Sharpie or other marker. Then take a stone in a guide and run it along the edge. If it takes off the marker evenly then you have a match. If more one side than the other, you can see which direction you need to go to match.
I prefer the Razor over the Xact, but can achieve desired results with both. Many prefer the Xact's angle dial, versus the pegs of the Razor, From this thread:

The Razor (2002TX) and the Xact (T2017) are both capable of multiple angles for base and side edges, along with sidewall cutting. The Razor uses different peg lengths to set the angles, while the Xact uses and asymmetrical angle dial. Both hold any length file or stones for side edges. The Xact only holds the included or comparable short file for base edges, while the Razor can hold any stone or file length, up to 6mm thick. This difference is less of an issue for some than others as the side edge bevel is where you sharpen the most with stones. I haven't had any big issues just using the Swiss file for base edges only. Feel free to give a shout if you have more questions.
Both are easy to use. The Razor has a more solid feel, but the polycarbonate (Lexan) used in both are plenty durable, along with being highly versatile for side wall cutting and scraper sharpening, along with base and side edge work.

Regarding stones, another quote from our FAQ page:

I'm putting together a tuning kit and am confused with all of the choices for files, diamonds stones and guides. Where do I start and what should I buy?
Determining what capabilities or level of tuning you are after will help decide on tuning or other tools. What level tuner are you and want to be; Leisure/Casual, Performance or Serious?.

If you looked at building a tool kit whether it's files, diamonds guides, brushes, waxes, etc as you looked at building your quiver of skis, you wouldn't necessarily get everything you can to start. There are simply too many variables to grasp without time and experience, cost and other considerations. As with skis and other gear, you can always buy more and there are various grades or calibers of tools. For the recreational skier and tuner, getting every one of the finest tools may be overkill and an unnecessary expense. But if you appreciate fine tools, and start out purchasing them, it's hard to go back to lessor caliber as you become spoiled.

For the 'all mountain' capabilities for main files & diamonds which you can build on, we suggest:
1) bastard or 2nd cut file-for edge sharpening, beveling and setting edge geometry, coupled with guide. The coarser the file, the faster the cut and filings stream off easier.
2) panzer/body file-for removal of side wall (edge off-set), quick removal of edge when establishing edge geometry or removing excess base material. Also great for plexi scraper sharpening.
3) 200 or 400 grit diamond-for deburring, maintenance sharpening, finishing and polishing edge
4) aluminum oxide stone-inexpensive 'beater' stone for knocking down case/work hardened edges, deburring, knife sharpening, misc tasks
5) gummy stone-detuning and rust removal
6) base and side edge combination guide-used to secure files, diamonds and stones accurately to set edge geometry (bevel angles) and can be used for maintenance sharpening with diamonds or stones

For starting out and I'd bet for the majority of recreational tuners (and if you'll also need other tools), a Deluxe Tuning Kit or Tuning Station, coupled with a diamond and gummy stone will be more than adequate, can be built upon and is a great value. The 3 in 1 Xact or Razor in our kits are solid and highly versatile. Later, if you decide to purchase more angle specific guides, the 3 in 1s will still be a nice tool to keep handy.
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