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Are these for you?

Michael
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Are these for you?

Michael
Yep. The price looked pretty good and TNF stuff fits me well. My old bibs are out of commission and I'd like to invest in something I can keep for a few years.
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Did you read the comments below by users?

Full zip (potty), flap makes them feel odd

Potty flap puts a non waterproof zipper on the seat of the chair where a wet or snowy lift ....

There may be a Bear with a sense of humor and "0" scruples behind you in line that would do anything for a laugh and Epic "Photo Op"

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Its a good product at a good price, personally it's a little overkill. I spent $60 on a Northface close-out in January. Mine is not a bib type, so lower performance in extreme weather. However, it did fine on a windy, snowy & cold day in Lake Louise.

Do you need all these features? Keep in mind this is the worst time of year to buy.

Michael
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I have a pair from a few years ago - part of a jacket/pants combo. Can't remember what I paid, but unless you find a super close out, you're going to spend $100-$200 for a decent pair of pants.

Used to be harder to find high-tech non-insulated skiwear. You have more choices now, but these are an "OK" deal for what you get. They are reasonably waterproof and unless it's really raining (as opposed to a steady drizzle) you'll stay dry. The zippers are not state-of-the-art waterproof and there is a rear "zip around" flap from one leg to the other which gives you a flap for droppin trou. It goes up both sides of the leg and just over your buns when seated. You may or may not like that - it makes the fabric a little stiff when it needs to fold, but not uncomfortable. The zipper is not in a location that will wick water off of a chair seat. The fabric is heavier and stiffer, not the softer stuff that is in vogue now. What you gain from the fabric is resistance to wear.

They seem to be sturdy and well made, but I really haven't worn them enough to tell you how many days you'll get out of them. I probably have 20-30 days in them in 3-4 years and they're still like new. I don't wear them when it's raining, but they're great on a "normal" day when temps are 0-30.

As you push above $200 you start getting into the range of some more advanced waterproof/breathable gear. Another $100+ and you are in sale range of some top-end stuff. Really depends on the conditions you're going to ski - i.e. rain or back country. The TNF's are a great "woods" pant because the material is tear resistant, but they lack the waterproof performance of the highest tech stuff available now. For typical "resort" skiing -meaning in bounds - the TNF's will work well for you. Then it's just a question of are you happy with what you're getting for $200 compared with what else you're seeing for the same money. If you don't need the abrasion resistance, you could probably find another pant for $100 - $150.

TNF isn't cool anymore, so as long as snickers from the peanut gallery don't bother you, you'll be fine. The gallery is kinda funny - they eschew fashion at all cost, yet won't be caught dead in the wrong thing. Go figure?
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TNF isn't cool anymore, so as long as snickers from the peanut gallery don't bother you, you'll be fine. The gallery is kinda funny - they eschew fashion at all cost, yet won't be caught dead in the wrong thing. Go figure?
Whoa! Thanks for all the helpful feedback everyone. Your comment is spot-on.
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Your comment is spot-on.
Incomplete though.

You validate your own fashion choices by the strength of your own belief in them.
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I just picked up a pair of Mammut Castor pants for $199. They are a durable softshell pant that is actually waterproof. Also, if you know your size and are on the computer regularly you may want to keep an eye on SAC for some Arcteryx gear...
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Glad bags, buddy!

Snowboard pants and then Glad coveralls for those extreme days. I think they're only like $5.99 for 3 dozen or something. Cheaper if you buy 'em in bulk from Costco!



i actually have Gorton's fisherman yellow slickers to pull over my regular pants should it be extreme weather.

i'm also planning on getting some of these:

http://redledge.com/

which are fairly cheap and compact
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TNF isn't cool anymore, so as long as snickers from the peanut gallery don't bother you, you'll be fine. The gallery is kinda funny - they eschew fashion at all cost, yet won't be caught dead in the wrong thing. Go figure?
Yea I find that kind of hypocritical. If a certain brand fits me best or even better is a great deal then I will buy and wear it regardless of what's "in" or what's "too in". I just bought a TNF Denali fleece because it was great deal and will do what I need. If the anti-fashionists don't like it they can bite me.
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My favorite pants were made by a company so uncool it advertises on the television.

What is the difference between that which is fashionable amongst the trustafarians and that which is fashionable amongst hoodlums? Do I care?
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Did you read the comments below by users?

Full zip (potty), flap makes them feel odd

Potty flap puts a non waterproof zipper on the seat of the chair where a wet or snowy lift ....

There may be a Bear with a sense of humor and "0" scruples behind you in line that would do anything for a laugh and Epic "Photo Op"

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I would imagine that the comment in question was from our (and DCSki's) own Craig. I value his opinion of gear very much, and he seemed to think they would not make a good ski pant.

As far as fachion goes, I have a new TNF jacket, and I could care less what others think. Yes they (like Columbia before them) have sold out, but it is still a quality product at a decent price. I have tried those $500 Spyder jackets, and I still cannot tell what all the fuss is about.
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Yes they (like Columbia before them) have sold out, but it is still a quality product at a decent price. I have tried those $500 Spyder jackets, and I still cannot tell what all the fuss is about.
In fact, the North Face "sold out" literally quite a while ago -- 1998 is when one of the founders sold it to the VF corporation -- same people who make Lee Jeans, if that clarifies things. :
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