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Help! Upgrade AT boots?

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Hi backcountry enthusiasts! I am trying to get some input on what boots fit what kind of feet, any experience or information will be appreciated.

Currently, I am in a pair of old 3 buckle, Nordica TR9's, Mondo 26.5, probably 10 years old & would like to upgrade (performance). I have Fritchi Freeride bindings, so the boots don't need to be Dynafit compatible. I have a generally low volume foot, narrow heel, skinny calf & ankle, medium arch but a wide forefoot (sixth toe syndrome/Mortons Neuroma), so I need room in the toebox & a high cuff.

I like the idea of a 4 buckle boot in the 7 to 8lb. range. I also like the idea of interchangeable DIN soles, so I could use them ocaisionally at the ski area & give my feet a rest from my stiff plug boots. Walk mode is essential.

What brand and/or model would fit my foot best? Scarpa, Garmont or... ?

Can I have it all? It sounds like some of the models that sound appealing to me may not have a walk mode?

These days most of my excursions are day trips or sidecountry.

Thanks,

JF
post #2 of 21
The Scarpa Tornado Pro is a good option with DIN compatible sole and interchangeable stiff/tour tongues. I love them for everyday skiing and shorter touring and they are light at 4lbs 3 oz. They thermal liners fit my low volume feet great as do my other T2x's.

Lots of people love the Garmont Endorphines or Adrenalines.
post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks Alpinord,
Is the sole rockered on the Tornado Pro, or does that not work with the interchangeable sole? Also how is the walk mode?
Thanks,
JF
post #4 of 21
They are not rockered, but have a comfortable walk mode. They are not ideal for extended boot hiking, but are highly versatile.
post #5 of 21
Tornados are great boots. They are about all I use these days. I have a pretty wide foot and the thermoflex liners form fit like a dream.

The sole is conventional shape, but hard rubber, not plastic.
post #6 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks again!
I was looking at the Tornados & the Spirit 4's, The thumbs up on the Tornados helps a lot. I usually try to skin when I tour, but find myself hiking more when I'm around the resorts, but they are usually short hikes so the Tornado may fit the bill. Is the hard rubber good enough in rocky areas?

Is there much added performance with the Tornados vs. Spirit 4?

Also would like to here more about Garmont options?

Thanks,

JF
post #7 of 21
Tornado vs Spirit, no difference other than Alpine binding option and Booster strap, which is a purchasable accesory. I'd look towards Garmont Endorphine, you get the same sole options with a better ski performance. It's a lower volume shell too, so has more scope for fit. All that said, the Scarpa boots are by far the best boot to walk with.
post #8 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks SZK!
JF
post #9 of 21
Garmont Megarides fit me well. I have a wide forefoot and there is plenty of room in the toebox. Everyone says Garmonts are a lower volume boot than Scarpas but they fit me better. They walk and climb like a dream - I've climbed ice in them, scrambled 4000 meter peaks, etc. If power transfer is a major concern you might want to go with a stiffer tongue and they aren't particularly torsionally stiff but they are a great BC boot. If you are going to be primarily in the area you might want something stiffer.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks Joe!
Can anyone tell me how the Megarides compare to the Endorphines & the Adrenalins & the Tornado Pro's? Fit wise? Performance?
Thanks,
JF
post #11 of 21
Maybe you need to see a Bootfitter, all would be revealed.
post #12 of 21
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMALLZOOKEEPER View Post
Maybe you need to see a Bootfitter, all would be revealed.
That's the problem. There is nowhere near me to try AT boots on. I am trying to gleen as much info as possible from the experienced users here.

The companies web sites give very little info, & I've only found a couple of helpful reviews.

Thanks,

JF
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
Thanks Joe!
Can anyone tell me how the Megarides compare to the Endorphines & the Adrenalins & the Tornado Pro's? Fit wise? Performance?
Thanks,
JF
The Megarides skew towards the lighter and less stiff side of the performance spectrum. They are quite light for a four-buckle boot, but obviously give up some stiffness compared to the more downhill-oriented Garmont AT boots. I got a pair last year, and find them to be very good compromise between touring and downhill performance. They are Dynafit-compatible, whereas the other Garmont boots are not.

The Endorphines and Adrenalines are geared more towards resort performance while still being acceptable to tour in. They are are both stiffer than the Megarides, but over a pound heavier per pair. The soles on them can be swapped between AT and alpine so they'll work with both types of bindings. I believe the Adrenalines and Endorphines are slighter wider and higher volume than the Megarides. The Tornados, like most Scarpas, are even higher volume. Scarpa makes a good boot, but their lasts are a little odd. Generally, people have a "Scarpa foot" or they don't.
post #14 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks MRG,
That is a big help! I origanally posted this with the Spirit 4 at the top of my list. Now I think I am leaning toward the Endorphine or the Tornado Pro. I can always use my old 3 buckle boots for extended tours.

Now I just need to figure out if I have a Scarpa foot or a Garmont foot !

Thanks,

JF
post #15 of 21
4ster,
Monsieur Dawson has some insights to add to the mix: Dynafit - Scarpa - Garmont — Fit Comparo
post #16 of 21
The above Quote is miles off, Kilometres if your in Europe, where does this stuff come from?
post #17 of 21
Thread Starter 
Alpinrod,
I checked out your link, thanks. Some good comparisons & a lot more good questions similar to mine. I will monitor that thread to see if some of them get answered.
Thanks,
JF
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 

Boots ordered!

Thanks to everyone for their input. I fanally got to try boots on. It was a no brainer between the Tornado & Endorphin for my foot.

I have ordered the Endorphins, the fit was perfect. I could have skied out of the shop in those shoes.

JF
post #19 of 21
No comparison IMO, enjoy.
post #20 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4ster View Post
I fanally got to try boots on.
JF
I also have skinny calfs and found that the booster strap makes a very big differance on my Garmonts. They install in place of the regular power strap and tighten up on the upper liner not the plastic tongue.
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
[quote=bpratl;804747]I also have skinny calfs and found that the booster strap makes a very big differance on my Garmonts. They install in place of the regular power strap and tighten up on the upper liner not the plastic tongue.[/quote


Thanks,

JF
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