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Ski Poles: Which ones, and how much do they matter?

post #1 of 26
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I am looking for some new ski poles. I am 5'8" and ski in new england. I can ski most everything at every mountain i've been to (sugarloaf, jay, mrg, pico). I ski mostly glades, but at sugarloaf I can't help but ski the bumps and steeps. What poles should I get. Aluminum, or composite?
post #2 of 26
I use two pairs of aluminum poles. One I bought myself for $19.95, one pair I got for free but retails for $150.00.

The cheap ones have bigger baskets so I use them in soft snow. The fancy ones are a bit lighter, but if I had to get rid of a pair, they would be first to go.
post #3 of 26
The composites are junk. They snap very easily.

Go with some scott aluminum poles.
post #4 of 26
Go leki I got some bend Fischer wc rc4 poles in 125cm and I'm 178cm tall..
post #5 of 26
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Originally Posted by MAGGOT View Post
The composites are junk. They snap very easily.

Go with some scott aluminum poles.
Aluminum suck, they bend very easy.

Go with Leki composites

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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
Go leki I got some bend Fischer wc rc4 poles in 125cm and I'm 178cm tall..
Switching to Leki this year after years of Goode.
post #6 of 26
I have a few Lekis, one for SL, one for GS, and one for SG. I prefer the GS shape, but thats just me.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Aluminum suck, they bend very easy.

Go with Leki composites



Switching to Leki this year after years of Goode.
I'd rather have a slightly bent dented pole than half a pole.
post #8 of 26
I agree with Maggot. I've broken two pairs of composites, both fairly pricey. Am now back to aluminum. If you watch the pre season sales you should be able to fine tempered aluminum Leki for about $20.
post #9 of 26
I use a carbon based pole. I like the weight and the fact that they absorb more of the pole plant shock.
post #10 of 26
I just got poles myself. I ordered Goode carbon poles. I really just wanted something light and found Goode 10.4 poles on sale in my size. I dont know enough to say what pole is better than another.
post #11 of 26
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Originally Posted by MAGGOT View Post
The composites are junk. They snap very easily.

Go with some scott aluminum poles.
You should buy better composites.

I have Kerma composites, and the pair the wife got me 7 years ago are in fine condition after 40 days / year, many in BC. Two pairs so that I have one set with small baskets for Ice oast, and one with larger baskets that I take west for actual snow.

Composites also have additional advantage of some shock absorbtion, so when the aluminum's feel like you just hit a baseball off the handle of the bat, the composites absorb it.

Whomever I gave the poles to to try for a run went out and bought a pair shortly thereafter. No one has yet broken a pair to my knowledge.

Go composite - no contest.
post #12 of 26
Leki Alu-Carbon, I have 3 pairs myself, all good from what I have used so far. Viper Venom SL's held up real well at camp.
post #13 of 26
Ditto for Leki Alu/carbon poles, (venom/ventrix series).
Had one pair with 400+ days on them with numerous falls on the poles, clients crashing into them etc. Finally broke when they got jammed in a chairlift incident.
Replaced with a pair of venom's. 100+days on them.
post #14 of 26
Well, I am not a gear nut and am the last to hold out my skiing as anything to imitate, but frankly my poles are at least 25 years old, maybe older. They're cheap aluminum and have somewhere in the neighborhood of 850 days and 14 million vertical feet on them. If I start thinking back, they may be the best $20 I ever spent. (Heck, they may have been $0 because I got them the same time I got skis and bindings!) I've never been able to understand people who buy poles that break easily or that others want to swipe. Other than having the right length, I'd say that there is not another piece of equipment you own that has less impact on your skiing. Mittens and goggles clearly will be more important even, the right coat, the right underwear, and certainly your boots and skis, will be more important. Why obsess about poles?
post #15 of 26
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Other than having the right length, I'd say that there is not another piece of equipment you own that has less impact on your skiing. Mittens and goggles clearly will be more important even, the right coat, the right underwear, and certainly your boots and skis, will be more important. Why obsess about poles?
Exactly.

If you want them to fill out your new gear ensemble so you will look rich and cool, get the composite, because they are the state of the art and show you have money to throw around on gear.

However, if you are thinking purely of function, go to a Goodwill or Salvation Army thrift shop (or other second hand stores), and often they will have big bins of poles for $2-3, get a few pair, pow, you're set for decades.

Oh, and as far as shock absorbsion, ease up on your pole plants folks, what are you trying to do stab the mountain to death?
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
Why obsess about poles?
Probably just a man thing.

Seriously though. I love my Leki Ventrix. They're light and have a nice feel. The big bonus for me though is the releasable tabs. You can use the regular strap with a release tab but I prefer the little hand harness (don't really know what to call it). It velcros snuggly around your glove and has a little yellow tab between your thumb and first finger. The tab snaps into the top of the pole and will release if pulled really hard (thus no need to unstrap for trees) or when you press the top of the pole (making it way convenient in the lift line). Best of all though is that it's held very securely in your hand even when you're not gripping it. Makes for a really nice feel when you swing it and a good relaxed feel through your hands, arms and shoulders because you don't need a death grip.

Hmmm, sorry this description sucks, but check out the Leki poles with the little yellow tab. They rock
post #17 of 26
For years I skied with intermittent wrist pain. Two seasons ago I switched to carbon poles on the advice of my coach. By the end of the season my wrist pain was gone. So, they can make a fairly significant difference for some of us.
post #18 of 26
My advice is to pay as little as possible. Just make sure they're the right length and they are comfortable for your hands.

For my first good quality poles I paid $5 for a pair of Scotts in 1966 at the SNIAGRAB in Seattle. The next pair was in the 80's; Kermas, for free from my brother because they were bright pink. I skied with them until two years ago when I bought a pair of composits at a local ski swap for $7. That's $12 over 41 years or $0.29 per year.
post #19 of 26
Oh, My!
Max, you may need to sit, down, I'm going to agree with you.

Sibhusky, I am sure that you've had great results with your poles but after your injuries last spring, you may end up experimenting with different poles. I am not speaking from personal experience on this but,........... a friend of mine had a significant wrist injury and needed to go with a composite Leki, with the glove harness, to take the impact off his wrist. The harness took the direct impact off her wrist, and the composite took the vibration out of the pole plants.

Prior to injury this was not an issue. Hope you don't find the need to change, but you may.

Aside from that, find a bargain pole that works for you!
post #20 of 26
I bought carbon poles thinking that they would be less prone to breakage. See I have this fear of crashing, my pole snapping, and me getting impaled by the stub...yeah I know weird, but thats what I fear. That being said, had a nasty spill at Hunter on Racer's Edge, snapped my expensive carbon pole like a twig, fortunately I did not get impaled

I have replacement carbon poles (shop hooked me up) for free skiing, but for competition I only use Leki aluminum poles and they are very stout. As far as I can tell, the carbon poles give a lot before catastrophic failure, whereas Al poles can become a pretzel and still hold together.
post #21 of 26
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Originally Posted by MAGGOT View Post
The composites are junk. They snap very easily.

Go with some scott aluminum poles.
Crappy composites do, brand really does matter.

Also, to add on to the Alu-Carbons, they really dont snap. They usually bend before they snap, if it ever happens.
post #22 of 26
Steal a pair of Scott rental poles (not that I'm advocating crime). They may be a little heavier than $500 boron poles, but they're really hard to break and you can bend them back into shape 200 times.
post #23 of 26
Aluminum snaps...

one high speed butt-saving pole plant into rock hard surface and the bottom half was gone instantly - flying into the trees after a very high pitched twiiingggg.

Kinda stung my arm, but was just enough to keep me from going down.

I like aluminum, but only a personal preference. Anything will break in the right circumstance.
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post #24 of 26
Go to home depot, get some nice steel or copper piping, stick some handles and tips from a $5 set of poles on it, and you're good to go. Doubles as a emergency club as well as water line replacement. Also builds upper body strength.
post #25 of 26
Well when I first Started to ski and got my own equipment I Got me a pair of rental poles and a can of black spray paint.. I got me a pair of lekis last year and like the clip in and out especially in the lift line.. and they way they stay in the palms of your hands when you are not holding on to them.. A rend of mine got some of the Leki Air Foils and I got my hands on them and I decided i would get me a set of those when I can get a prity good deal on them..
post #26 of 26
Personally, I broke ONE composite pole in 15 years of using them, and that was being stupid. The composite will reduce fatigue, especially skiing the hard snow (see:ice) in the east. Swing weight is less and they are more aerodynamic for skiing at speed.
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