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Splitting Skis - False Security?

post #1 of 43
Thread Starter 
As a follow-up to the I Hate Thieves thread, I cringe whenever I see people putting one ski in one location on the ski rack and another somewhere else outside the lodge. Apparently, this is supposed to deter thieves somehow.

Just for a laugh one day, I thought I might see how long it would take to find the mate to a ski (among thousands) outside the Roundhouse on Whistler at lunch time. Elapsed time: 24 seconds.

Lock 'em or lose 'em.
post #2 of 43
That particular day, I was too lazy to hoof back to the car to fetch the locks. I put my wifes old clunker face outward .... clever me........
post #3 of 43
I tried this too, but since my short term memory is gone...Uh, bad idea. I spent the rest of the day finding my other ski!
post #4 of 43
Splitting skis always seemed nebulous to me....when I start to get into that paranoid mind set I figure they are watching me split them so what's the use.

If I can't plant them outside the window where I'm eating (which you can do at Crystal's Snorting Elk) I check them. For two bucks I get piece of mind.

It's just not worth it to me to risk having them taken.
post #5 of 43
It's definitely not very secure, but I think it's better than nothing. I figure that theives are more likely to go after the low-hanging fruit - those skis that are not locked or split.
post #6 of 43
It's the snow equivalent of putting your wallet near the toe of your sneaker at the beach, while you swim. It only makes you feel secure.

Why not just get a Kryptonite C4 combination lock? I use one, it's small enough and light enough to keep in my chest pocket, and I even use at the summit, due to the ease of binding adjustment on them (a thief could "swap" his skis with mine and ski off with them, in seconds).
post #7 of 43
I get a lot of compliments on my locking system -- Elway's old choke chain and a combo lock.
post #8 of 43
I highly recommend checking them. If this is not possible I think splitting them up will decrease the chances of ski theft. Pairing up with someone else is done all the time. Just make sure the skis look different. You guessed it, parents at my wife's school traded skis and since they were the same brand, the thief did not notice the difference in length. Result was losing two pairs..
post #9 of 43
I walk back home and put them in my locker.

If I'm elsewhere, I use a Kryptonite retactable lock.

A ski instructor friend, Sean MacCarron, has a theory that if you leave your skis base down on the snow with your poles stuck in the snow next to them, then it looks like that person is coming right back. Any other instructors believe in that? I think I'm too paranoid to buy into that. :
post #10 of 43
I just use a retractable lock - it only takes a minute to lock up the skis, and it's worth it for not having to look out the window of the lodge every 2 seconds. Another solution is to just never leave your skis
post #11 of 43
Friends of mine once split up his 205 and her 180 skis of the same brand and model and put them together as two mismatched pairs in different locations. They came back to find that they now had one mismatched pair between them.
post #12 of 43
Kneale - LOL

Splitting skis is totally pointless. If someone wants to steal your skis it will take them an extra two seconds to get them from both locations. Especially funny is seeing split skis when there are only ten pairs on the racks anyway. Also it is only the skis nobody would want to steal that get split up.

Splitting skis is about as effective as a "please don't steal me" sign.
post #13 of 43
You should use Elway's new choke chain with him in it.
post #14 of 43
So has anyone had there ski's stolen when they did have a lock on them?? Iam getting so parnoid now i boute 2 locks and will double lockem, not sure if that will help but since i have two locks now why not.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 16, 2001 08:29 PM: Message edited 1 time, by dc9mm ]</font>
post #15 of 43
I've had several pairs of skis stolen over the years, including 3 pairs stolen right out of two different ski school locker rooms. Each time it sucks just as bad!

I do often split my skis. I've never had a pair stolen when I've split them, for whatever that's worth (very possibly nothing). Of course, it depends on how well the two skis are separated. For the thief looking for a quick, easy grab, I figure that even a little inconvenience is often enough to have them grab another pair. It may also help to park your skis next to the newest-looking, most expensive pair of "defenseless" skis out there....

You're not alone, Kneale. There were two instructors at Keystone who traded skis to create two mismatched pairs when they went in for a break at the Outpost. When they returned, one "pair" was gone--so they effectively lost two pairs of skis! Someone must have grabbed them and hopped onto the gondola without really looking.

Locks are good!

Best regards,
Bob Barnes
post #16 of 43

How much of a problem is stolen skis? I've been skiing for 15 years and never even thought about getting my skis stolen until I began reading this forum last year. I've never even known anyone who has gotten their skis stolen. Is it a problem in certain areas of the country?
post #17 of 43
I usually pair my ski up with my husbands, not so much to deter theft but to prevent the honest mistake of someone from taking our skis thinking they were theirs.
post #18 of 43
I've had two pair of skies stolen over the years. With the first pair, I, like a fool, left them near the exit. Quick escape for any thief. I got lucky with the second pair. I was at my home mountain and very casual about leaving my skies on the rack during breaks. The thieves were a couple of local high school kids. They each had grabbed a couple of pairs of skies and went running through the parking lot to their car. A very observant mountain employee thought the boys looked suspicious and took down their licence plate number and gave it to the State Police! 24 hours after I reported the theft to the State Police, I got a call back. They had both boys, the stolen goods AND their parents at the police station. They asked if I would I like to come down to the station, identify my equipment and press charges.

I confronted the boys and parents, told them what I thought, but didn't press charges. I was just relieved to get my babies (skies) back! I felt that hopefully they'd learned something from their mistakes. Besides, both sets of parents looked like they were going to dispense appropriate LASTING PUNISHMENT! [img]smile.gif[/img]

Needless to say, now I always carry a lock in my jacket pocket and ALWAYS LOCK UP MY SKIES. Even if I'm running into the lodge for only a few minutes. Lessons learned.

Whenever I buy new skies, I always make a point of taking down the Serial#, that's located on the sidewall of the skies, and keep it in a safe place along with my receipt.(the serial# on some brands may be located elsewhere?) That way if your skies are every stolen and recovered, you can prove that their yours. Also if their lost for good, you have proof of purchase and price for the insurance co.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ December 17, 2001 09:47 AM: Message edited 1 time, by HarryO ]</font>
post #19 of 43
another advantage to skiing the straights: they'll be there when you look for 'em.
post #20 of 43
The real trick to separating yoour skis is to make sure they are 1000 miles apart
post #21 of 43
I have come to a few solutions for this subject.

Put stupid stickers on your skis which really make them one of a kind. I prefer the Britney Spears or Backstreet Boys stickers found at grocery stores in machines by the doors. Just make sure to put them close to the tips so they don't get scratched up. Plus, they make great conservation pieces on the lifts with strangers. Last year I had a woman convinced that Britney had a restraining order against me, the exboyfriend. She skied off quickly at the top. Of course now I notice a lot of these stickers showing up, so I'm switching to cartoons like Scooby, or Power Rangers.

My ski buddy wrote in huge letters on his G41's in unmissable black marker; "MY OWNER IS FRED" This is pretty funny, he never loses anything. But now he gets his skis burried by me everytime he goes inside, it is always funny.

People who steal ski equipment, or anything for that matter, suck. Somebody must have wizzed in their gene pool.
post #22 of 43
The key to solving this problem is easy. Stop taking your skis off gosh darnitt!!

With the a amount of skiing I do these days, when I get to the hill, I'm not taking off my skis til I'm done, at the end of the day!!

And If I absolutley have to take em off, I like to leave them on the hill, as close to the lift as possible, separated from any other skis.

I've always been under the impression that splitting skis is only effective if the person who is going to steal them is not watching you. And how are you going to know that? You're not. I personally do my best to prevent ski theft by skiing on the oldest, straightest most boring looking skis on the hill.....

knocking on wood core....
post #23 of 43
Yes, it seems like to avoid paranoia it's better not to have the latest, baddest model! But it sounds like locks work too...
post #24 of 43
Of course serious skiing thieves are not interested in most of the skis scattered around the outside of lodges but rather the hot models. So most skiers with older or intermediate skis need not bother to secure them. I almost always carry a cable lock but there are times when don't and then use the ski split method except that I tend to lay the skis flat on the snow base side up well separated. Oh yeah a couple years ago I bought one of those recoiling locks with thin cables and never used it after checking to see how easily the cable could be cut. In fact the whole case was easily pried apart. -dave
post #25 of 43
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I split my skis. Always. I usually try to lean one of them on the "do not lean skis on the window" decal. Splitting skis won't prevent a determined thief but a lock won't slow a thief down much either. I can pick most inexpensive cable locks in less than 30 seconds.

More than anything, splitting skis prevents some yahoo from stealing my poles. I've had poles stolen at the _TOP_ of the mountain so I've resorted to splitting skis everywhere.
post #26 of 43
cable lock? I tested one of those "ski tote" cable locks a couple of years ago....
It took one try with a pair of cheap household scissors to cut through the damn thing.
post #27 of 43
One more reason to keep using 208cm straight skis.
post #28 of 43
I guess there's a case for parking your Mercedes beside a Ferrari. If someone is going to take something, they're going to take the best there is.
Plan B: if you have new skis, lock them beside someone else's that are similar (or better) but not locked.

post #29 of 43
I like that analogy!
post #30 of 43
Locking up your skis any way you can is the best way to make sure they will be there when you want to pick them back up. It's not fool proof though. If some one wants them bad enough, they will take them anyway.

Your chances of getting them stolen at mid mountain areas are low. Splitting skis at these places are usually safe. Even though it wouldn't take someone long to match a pair of split skis, they would still have to be a good binding fit for their boots to ski off with them.

In high traffic areas, my skis are always locked. By the Gondola, parking lots, ticket booths, bars and restaurants by the base areas. These aren't safe areas. Lock them some how. The first question we ask people when they come in to report their skis or boards stolen is, "Were they locked up?" All the years i've worked security, I can only remember 3 pairs of skis stolen that were locked up. Or at least they said they were.
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