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what are some good ice ski's?

post #1 of 23
Thread Starter 
out here in the nw, there are a few days where we'll get straight up iceeeee.

what are some good ski's that can tear those conditions up?

i remember when i was younger i use to take my little salomon 720's up there and just have no control.
post #2 of 23
If you want a bargain, you can pick up Head ic300 skis for dirt cheap. They were the flagship ski when they came out and made for that kind of condition. I have them, good skis. Some shops still have them, and you can find them on ebay, they are from 03-05 if I am not mistaken.
post #3 of 23
Depending on the turns you want to do ....

Any race stock SL or GS ... with a nice sharp ... like 3/1 bevel

GS ... wanna go like schnell ? :

SL ... keep the radius shorter and speed saner on the ice ..

SG ... madman ... lemme know when you are out there so I won't be .. :
post #4 of 23
here on the Ice coast, I have always used what ever I happen to be skiing just making sure the edges are nice and sharp. As stated above the 3-1 bevel excels on ice. I am at the moment skiing Fischer RX8's as my every day ski and find they work well but my old Dynastar Speed SX's also do a fine job.
post #5 of 23
Elan Speedwave's are my usual tool of choice here in New England. But, as Stoweguy said, really sharp edges are an absolute requirement. I've seen people laying down railroad track turns on Pocket Rockets into snow so hard that you couldn't possibly stick a ski pole into it.
post #6 of 23
Sure, Race Stock works best, but do you want to ski them slow, or in bumps, or through stiff crud? In the NE, which invented ice, almost any Fischer under 80 mm, or if you like more beef, almost any Elan, Blizzard, Volkl or Stockli (with plate), Atomics other than the Metrons. Non race stock Brands that I would avoid if you can read old lift tickets a foot under the surface: Rossis, Dynastars, K2's, Scotts. Non RS brands that IMO are good but not great on ice rinks: Head, Nordica, Salomon. If you get a pattern here, it's that 1) light or heavy, damp or lively work, as long as they're stiff enough in the right places and have well thought-out binding interfaces, and 2) nothing substitutes for sharp edges.
post #7 of 23
As stated above, bevel is important. Find a good shop if you're not this yourself. Though be mindful that you will likely have to sharpen your skis more frequently than with the 1-1 or 2-1 setup.
post #8 of 23
I liked the Head iSL chips on ice last year.
post #9 of 23
K2 EIS (Extreme Ice Ski)
post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
K2 EIS (Extreme Ice Ski)
That's a name from the past!!! Those things were so thick! I never skied it...
post #11 of 23
Thread Starter 
i was looking online for the EIS.... coudln't find it anywhere.

can you guys send a link?

thanks!
post #12 of 23
I PU'd Atomic's SX12 last year.
At our local hill we had a big section of pure ice. I pushed them hard thru a turn right over the ice. The SX12's held like I was on skates! Scary feeling I must say. Of course being brand new, they had sharp edges.

These skis demand a very strong skier, read the online reviews.

I'm sure many good GS or SL skis will hold good. I didn't have the same experience with the Salomon Equip though, just didn't hold very well.
post #13 of 23
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Depending on the turns you want to do ....

Any race stock SL or GS ... with a nice sharp ... like 3/1 bevel

GS ... wanna go like schnell ? :

SL ... keep the radius shorter and speed saner on the ice ..

SG ... madman ... lemme know when you are out there so I won't be .. :
Yuki, I am shocked:, you know you always quote base bevel first and side bevel 2nd. Ya mean a 1/3!
post #14 of 23
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Originally Posted by stoweguy View Post
here on the Ice coast, I have always used what ever I happen to be skiing just making sure the edges are nice and sharp. As stated above the 3-1 bevel excels on ice. I am at the moment skiing Fischer RX8's as my every day ski and find they work well but my old Dynastar Speed SX's also do a fine job.
Stoweguy,

I am shocked:, ya know you always quote base bevel first and side bevel 2nd. Ya mean a 1/3!
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by JPat View Post
As stated above, bevel is important. Find a good shop if you're not this yourself. Though be mindful that you will likely have to sharpen your skis more frequently than with the 1-1 or 2-1 setup.
this is an absolute myth.
You also have quoted the bevels backwards and a 1/3 or .7/3 would be the preferred tune.

There is no longevity difference in a 1/1, 1/2 or 1/3!

and even if there was which there is not, you should ski on fresh sharp edges everyday anyway!
post #16 of 23
To everyone noting base/side bevels in this thread: Start using 1/1 and you'll REALLY confuse A-man because then he won't know which is which... are you right... are you rwong...? I don't know - will he?
post #17 of 23
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
To everyone noting base/side bevels in this thread: Start using 1/1 and you'll REALLY confuse A-man because then he won't know which is which... are you right... are you rwong...? I don't know - will he?
1/1::
post #18 of 23
In order of best grip on ice from my experience:
1. Racing skis (my SGs grip really well on ice even at 0.5-2)
2. One-step down from racing like SX11,WC SC etc.
3. One more (baby) step down, RX8, Equipe SC (must have been freshly tuned, I found them good; tune is so important in demos)

Not Vollants (sorry VA, but ice-skates they ain't)
post #19 of 23
My ice ski is the Atomic SL 11 from a few years ago that A Man hooked me up with a few seasons ago. IMHO this ski is a phenomenal ice skate that is just tenacious on hard icy scratchy snow. The guy I ski with has a pair too, and he's remarked and I'd have to agree, that this ski has made skiing at our hill in marginal scratchy conditions enjoyable and worth the effort to go out. I believe the SX 11 Ghost lists above is the same construction as the SL 11 and would also be a great ski for icy conditions.
post #20 of 23
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
If you want a bargain, you can pick up Head ic300 skis for dirt cheap. They were the flagship ski when they came out and made for that kind of condition. I have them, good skis. Some shops still have them, and you can find them on ebay, they are from 03-05 if I am not mistaken.
Agreed on Head ic300 -- and here's another mind-blower in terms of price, also from Head.

The fashion for wide, versatile Metrony skis has made this the best time in history to buy narrow-waisted ice fiends.
post #21 of 23
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post
My ice ski is the Atomic SL 11 from a few years ago that A Man hooked me up with a few seasons ago. IMHO this ski is a phenomenal ice skate that is just tenacious on hard icy scratchy snow. The guy I ski with has a pair too, and he's remarked and I'd have to agree, that this ski has made skiing at our hill in marginal scratchy conditions enjoyable and worth the effort to go out. I believe the SX 11 Ghost lists above is the same construction as the SL 11 and would also be a great ski for icy conditions.
Taht was one of my favorite skis of all time! so happy to hear they worked out for you!
post #22 of 23
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Originally Posted by Northcheels View Post
i was looking online for the EIS.... coudln't find it anywhere.

can you guys send a link?

thanks!
Sorry, suggesting the EIS was a bit tongue in cheek, the EIS pre-date the internet. Do a search for VO Slalom. They were 2x4's with edges.
post #23 of 23
Atomic SX 10, 11 or 12 : Dynastar Speed SX all have great hold on Boilerplate blue
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