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post #331 of 344
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Originally Posted by dakine View Post
 

In 2000 I thought I would try and see if I had what it takes to join the 200 mph club.

To do this you have to set a new land speed record in a class where the record is over 200.

I bought a new Suzuki Hayabusa and started working it up.

Worked with a current record holder on technique and tuning.

Got my bike up into the high 190's before I regained my sanity.

I no longer (if I ever did) have the cojones to fly this low.

 

A tuck on a bike and a tuck on skis is pretty similar as far as what you see.

That's where the similarity ends.

Anywhere over 160 and the wind is like a wild beast that is trying to rip you apart.

The shriek of the wind and the 180 hp between your legs makes this the most intense speed sensation I have ever experienced.

Speed in a car is nothing compared to speed on skis or a bike.

The comments about stopping as a bad strategy for avoiding incidents is entirely correct.

At 200 on a bike it takes about a mile to stop but 60 to 0 only takes about 130 feet.

 

I've been over 70 on skis and it feels like about 150 on a bike.

Kiss your ass goodbye if things go wrong.


Truth!  I have only been 120 on a motorcycle.  That's plenty fast enough for this kid!  I have the most fun on a bike on small twisties where top speed might not ever be over 50 mph.

190!  You have big ones!  Now you have ultra respect for the Super bike dudes!  Be good.

post #332 of 344

Here's a sweet video from up on the US Ski Team's Speed Center course at Copper a couple days ago.   Nice shots of Lindsey Vonn and others flying by (literarily) at way faster than 50mph!

 

 

post #333 of 344

^^ That was a good video Tball!  Good visualization of speed there.  I'm guessing at that fast point 65 to70 mph or so.  I tried to get the Copper Cams many times to no avail here in Bend.  That bummed me out.  Thanks for that one.

post #334 of 344
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Originally Posted by dakine View Post
 

In 2000 I thought I would try and see if I had what it takes to join the 200 mph club.

To do this you have to set a new land speed record in a class where the record is over 200.

I bought a new Suzuki Hayabusa and started working it up.

Worked with a current record holder on technique and tuning.

Got my bike up into the high 190's before I regained my sanity.

I no longer (if I ever did) have the cojones to fly this low.

 

A tuck on a bike and a tuck on skis is pretty similar as far as what you see.

That's where the similarity ends.

Anywhere over 160 and the wind is like a wild beast that is trying to rip you apart.

The shriek of the wind and the 180 hp between your legs makes this the most intense speed sensation I have ever experienced.

Speed in a car is nothing compared to speed on skis or a bike.

The comments about stopping as a bad strategy for avoiding incidents is entirely correct.

At 200 on a bike it takes about a mile to stop but 60 to 0 only takes about 130 feet.

 

I've been over 70 on skis and it feels like about 150 on a bike.

Kiss your ass goodbye if things go wrong.


Bike and skis are somewhat similar.  Just like a SG ski does not feel as fast as a SL ski at the same speed, 100 mph on 750 + bike does not feel as fast as 100 mph on an Ninja 250.

The fastest most intense sensation of speed I can recall is an unintentional dismount on a back concession at about a buck ten.  Talk about an internal speedometer recalibration, while bumping through the potholes on your back, 35 mph gets upgraded from "extremely slow" to, "Hey, maybe I'll live through this."

 

Here's a tip for speed seekers in Ontario and Quebec.  If you go during or shortly after freezing rain events you have the steeper hills almost to yourself (but only if it's still open).

post #335 of 344
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

 

Yep, so folks should know their phones are probably not very accurate.   But it looks like if you have a good gps you don't need a radar gun:

 

Here's the gps the software guys are partnered with.   $185 and provides 10Hz data logging.:

http://racing.qstarz.com/Products/BT-Q1000eX.html

https://partsforspeed.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=5340

 

I don't see the data rate on your GT31.  Do you know the maximum data logging rate?

http://www.locosystech.com/product.php?id=30

 

Given the hero status to be gained on youtube, I'm surprised there are no skiing videos with speed displayed yet.   Actually... I'm afraid this might take off and we'll be seeing more and more folks skiing 50+mph for the youtube cred.  Scary.

 

Your unit looks pritty good. Im using the GT because its the official GPS for gps-speedsurfing. Not even bad crashes give falce speed readings or fake speed-peeks.

post #336 of 344
I refrained from commenting in this thread, especially posting video. I have nothing to prove and really no concern for knowing how fast I'm going. I do care about the time if I'm racing, of course. Interestingly, I have won races where I didn't have the highest speed on radar on this course.

 

I refrained from commenting in this thread, especially posting video. I have nothing to prove and really no concern for knowing how fast I'm going. I do care about the time if I'm racing, of course. Interestingly, I have won races where I didn't have the highest speed on radar on this course.

 

But as Snowfan posted it, let me add some facts to go with the video. My run certainly exceeded 60 mph in the 45 sec to 55 sec segment of the video. While this run was not on radar, we frequently have been radared in that section with speeds hitting the mid to upper 60s. Additionally, the course, from top to bottom is .9 miles as the crow flies and we regularly do it in 55 seconds. The first few gates (until 30 sec and the first race shack) is a pretty mild, so if I averaged 58.9 mph (.9 miles/ 0.01527 hours), I think it is safe to say I was in the vicinity of 60+ mph for a fair portion of the run.

 

I will make an effort to use my android to track speeds with the GPS. I'm making no predictions, although I think my phone is failry accurate if obvious mis-readings are taken out. I DID hit 45 mph on Swan Mt. Road this summer. ;)

 

Disclaimer: I don't know what my actual time was in that run, but it was certainly sub-60 seconds and likely a 55 or 56.

 

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Originally Posted by Jacques View Post
 


That's a nice video there!

 

Thanks, Jacques. Cooper is pretty much a drag strip, but it requires some skill to win there, much less finish.

 

Another perspective in the 'fast' section of the course from other speed camps:

 

It was a windy day.

 

Note: second run is on 1977 223cm Rossi DHs (r>100m); other runs on 2002 215cm Fischer RC4s (r>40m).

 

I like to play at Cooper.

post #337 of 344

I did do one video of racing last season.  I did not think they were going very fast so I thought it was GS.  I was then corrected to find out it was billed as SG.  If you are into racing you might enjoy this long video.

 

post #338 of 344

Funny thing about skiing fast, the better the skier, the slower they appear to be traveling from a distance.  And the opposite is true.  A terrible skier going 30 mph looks like they're going 60 mph hahaha..

post #339 of 344

Here's a video from the a Denver TV station last night showing some good speed shots from the training at Copper:

 

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=363906

 

The US Ski Team has a sweet setup there... man that looks like fun.

post #340 of 344
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

Here's a video from the a Denver TV station last night showing some good speed shots from the training at Copper:

 

http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=363906

 

The US Ski Team has a sweet setup there... man that looks like fun.

I wandered through Copper Station on Saturday ...  I don't think I was supposed to be there. Saw Bode Miller sitting on a bench, messing with a stroller. 

post #341 of 344

The speed center is huge for the team as well as for the up and coming kids that get to train there. I never got enough training and was over my head, experience wise, when I went racing in Europe. This is a great opportunity to get time at speed, including air.

post #342 of 344
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post
 

I wandered through Copper Station on Saturday ...  I don't think I was supposed to be there. Saw Bode Miller sitting on a bench, messing with a stroller. 


Ya, some lady had just walked up with that and said "remember me"?:newkeyboard:

post #343 of 344
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post
 


Ya, some lady had just walked up with that and said "remember me"?:newkeyboard:

Yeah, I didn't even know there was a baby ... had to look that one up. I thought his kid was older, but I guess there are two now. Hard to keep up.

post #344 of 344
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Originally Posted by tball View Post
 

Nice videos!  You speed jockeys with GoPro's and GPS's should pick up this software to put them together:

 

http://www.dashware.net/

 

Then we could have skiing videos like these and this thread could live forever!!!

 

 

 

 

 

Those videos confirm my suspicion that skiing speed with a good GPS should be pretty accurate.  

Ok, I took the bait and downloaded the DashWare software.  Here is a quick edit of the video that I first posted.  I think the Dashware software must be "smoothing" the data, which is a plus.  In the raw GPS data (Garmin 60CSx), there is one point at 60 early in the run and one point at 64 late in the run.  The "dashboard" displays these sections as 59mph and 60mph respectively.  I was very impressed with how quick and easy it was to integrate the GoPro video with the GPS, (gpx formatted file).  There are a lot of options for the dashboard display, but I just took the default and made a couple of quick tweaks.  I'm passing this on primarily because I'm a tech geek and have always thought it would be cool to link up video and GPS.  Thanks to tball, I can now do that - and it only cost me $50.  :)

 

Here is the graph of the GPS data that the DashWare software produces...

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