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New Boots reccomendations and Krypton flex question

post #1 of 14
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I need new boots the kryptons I have are just not working

I was hoping I could get some ideas on new boots based on the following
  • Flex : The kryptons I have right now are setup w/ the stiff tounges and the stiffening blocks if someone could approximate that flex interms of other boots I'd be greatly appreciated. This is on the soft end of flex that work well for me. So any boot that is as stiff or a little stiffer
  • Plug
  • High cuff: Not super important but I am a pretty tall guy (6'4") and have long lower legs.
  • I pronate a decent amount I dont know if any of these cool new "corrective" shapes actually work?
post #2 of 14
That would make it very stiff, You may be pushing up to the 150 flex but probably not quite. The Nordica agressor 150 may be for you but try it out. It also has the slight twist and absolutly it does work if you know your a pronator. If you want to get an idea of how much you pronate you should download the self testing on my web site and get a feel for it in degrees. then you can figure it out for yourself. The abducted boots will help you out to the tune of about 2-3 degrees. If you are over that you will need some extra help.
post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by mosh View Post
That would make it very stiff, You may be pushing up to the 150 flex but probably not quite. The Nordica agressor 150 may be for you but try it out. It also has the slight twist and absolutly it does work if you know your a pronator. If you want to get an idea of how much you pronate you should download the self testing on my web site and get a feel for it in degrees. then you can figure it out for yourself. The abducted boots will help you out to the tune of about 2-3 degrees. If you are over that you will need some extra help.
Not sure I want a 150 flex. 130 is probably going to be more comfotable to me, the kryptons never felt THAT stiff. But I will probably go try the nordicas on in the store, the problem is with that of course, is you can never tell how stiff a boot is from trying it on in a room temp store. I guess my question is would it be easier to stiffen a 130 flex boot or soften a 150 flex boot\\?
post #4 of 14
Usually easier to soften than stiffen, many of the race boots on the market have rivets that can be removed to soften flex, along with other options. Stiffening a boot involves adding rivets and/or material.

Because longer tib/fibs and average or shorter feet offer greater leverage to flex a boot, you may need not only a stiffer flexing boot but a more upright boot so your knees do not hang out past your toes. Changing your boot's angles can change how it flexes and the amount of leverage you have over it. The Krypton does have a bit higher cuff than most other boots so by changing it's forward lean and ramp and/or delta angle you may be able to get the kind of flex you are looking for.

What model bindings are you using? What is your boot sole length? These factor into the overall picture.
post #5 of 14
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Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post
Usually easier to soften than stiffen, many of the race boots on the market have rivets that can be removed to soften flex, along with other options. Stiffening a boot involves adding rivets and/or material.

Because longer tib/fibs and average or shorter feet offer greater leverage to flex a boot, you may need not only a stiffer flexing boot but a more upright boot so your knees do not hang out past your toes. Changing your boot's angles can change how it flexes and the amount of leverage you have over it. The Krypton does have a bit higher cuff than most other boots so by changing it's forward lean and ramp and/or delta angle you may be able to get the kind of flex you are looking for.

What model bindings are you using? What is your boot sole length? These factor into the overall picture.
Size 13 US feet. BSL 315. Binding is usually a mojo 15 (flat). The krypton's flex is not the problem, the problem is my poor circulation which is cut off by the middle buckle.
post #6 of 14
Wait.....you are a US 13 and in a 315 boot sole?????

Sorry, you didn't mention the "poor circulation cut off by the middle buckle. but if you are in a 27 boot with a size 13, you may have other issues too?:
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post
Wait.....you are a US 13 and in a 315 boot sole?????

Sorry, you didn't mention the "poor circulation cut off by the middle buckle. but if you are in a 27 boot with a size 13, you may have other issues too?:
I am in a 27 and it fits. The fit is almost perfect. The shell fits like a glove (due to a LOT of boot work), no hotspots what so ever. The only problem is when I start skiing And I buckle the middle buckle to the point where my heel is locked down it starts cutting of circulation.
post #8 of 14
I think you answered your own question! You have found the limitations of downsizing. I find it difficult to believe your size 13 foot fit into that shell. I am a size 11.5 and ski in that shell and had to do some work. Are your toes sticking out the front of the boot? What are you trying to prove? What is the benefit to you by cramming your foot into that space? Why?
post #9 of 14
Seems to me from the pictures you showed of your foot sometime back, that your foot is a little thick for a Dobermann model. I think that possibly you are just trying to put too much into that middle cable. If you have to "lock" your foot up, the Krypton is probably not the model to do it in. (although that's not usually a great idea in the first place)

I put Jed Peters (235 lbs and a powerful guy) into a Head RD 96. This is a very thick lower with a moderately wide shape (for a plug boot) He has a foot like a puddle and it took a lot of grinding, but there is a lot there to work with.

It will be stiff enough.

SJ
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post
I think you answered your own question! You have found the limitations of downsizing. I find it difficult to believe your size 13 foot fit into that shell. I am a size 11.5 and ski in that shell and had to do some work. Are your toes sticking out the front of the boot? What are you trying to prove? What is the benefit to you by cramming your foot into that space? Why?
Not trying to prove anything, I didnt put myself in that boot, I was placed in it by a reputable bootfitter
post #11 of 14
Wow, I'm impressed. That's like hoodini stuff man. Size 13 in a 9.5???? Magic baby, magic.
post #12 of 14
PhilT, did you possibly mean a 31.5 mondo size vs. a 315mm boot sole length? That would certainly make more sense!
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
Nope, 315mm which is a 27.0-27.5 Mondo Shell
post #14 of 14
PhilT:
Just recently we had a discussion in this forum about limitations of the internet and this may be one of them. It is impossible to say you are incorrect about your boot sizing because we can't see, but damn man where have you put your toes. They certainly can't be in the boot.

I wear not quite 11 and measure 27. Bud did some work and got his 11 1/2 into 27, but I wouldn't even know where to start to get a 13 into a 27. Well actually I do, I would recommend a boot two to three sizes bigger.

Honestly I think there must be some mistake here that will make it difficult for us to give advice.

Lou
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