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post #31 of 36
For me the ankle movement or foot tipping inside the boot has as much to do about structural alignment of the body (leg) to the skis inside edge and weight shifting to the medial side of the foot as the foot is loaded as it is about actually tipping the ski. I won't say that I use all of my range of ankle motion up to achieve this, but I feel that for the most part I will use up most of my ankle range, with little left. We don't really have that much range of ankle motion in our boots do we? And further, does the kinetic chain really get recruited much before we get the ankle tipped to the side of the boot? Tipping beyond this triggers the kinetic chain and leg/hip movement. Not to say that a focus on the knee doesn't work for some to help this along. Particularly when trying to make a change in movement patterns initially.

I'm also one who pays special attention to my foot and ankle. After this it would be the hips. I tend to pay the least attention to my knees, as I find that my knees will do whatever I need them to do when driven by foot/ankle and hip movements.
post #32 of 36
I got into the foot tipping focus after spending a couple days with former D-Teamer Sean Warman maybe ten years ago. I'd pretty much lost any thought about the knees by themselves until last spring, when I spent a couple days with Debbie Armstrong. She reawakened knee awareness for me and reminded me about paying attention to EVERYTHING, because it ALL matters.
post #33 of 36
Well I'm in the leave no stone unturned camp myself. I probably could have chosen my words better. Every and all parts of the chain should get attention, and full body awareness is something to continually strive for. Still I find that when my ankles and hips are making effective movements then the knee takes care of itself. Off course I would only know that by being mindfull of all the parts doing their job.
post #34 of 36
For me, I find that I have to keep my thoughts moving, but not all at the same time. I just can't concentrate on it all at once. However, I can check up and down the chain over the course of a run or two and see how I'm moving.

Great insights, guys... thanks for sharing!
post #35 of 36
All of the parts working together to produce the desired outcome. That in a nut shell is the idea I was going for guys. The focus may be on the foot to facilitate an edge release, but the rest of the body needs to be involved and in motion for any of this stuff to work.
post #36 of 36
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Hello, I had my first day out yesterday. I believe part of the issue i was having has been identified. See thread below.


With the new setup I definately felt a major difference in being able to edge the skis. I also noticed I was feeling the skis flatten in-between turns as opposed to feeling only one ski at a time before. This is a pretty remarkeable discovery I think with the new boot setup. Feeling the whole ski I wasn't even thinking about things and it was just 'happening'.

Once I flattened the skis I wasn't thinking about what to do next and it was like a natural progression to let them keep tipping and I would start to turn. No pivoting or riding on the tails although I dont think I was 'carving' but rather skidding with the whole ski rather than the tails(if that makes any sense). I was still hesistant on steeper pitches but being harder to ride the tails with the new setup, I found I was having to adjust my approach and turn more often.

As the day progressed and my confidence increased I went back to the green trail and noticed I was edging the skis more and letting them skid less. I could pressure buildup in the quads and arches and felt like I was moving with the ski rather than forcing them to do something. I would say I was doing very little movement with the upper body at all and it was easy to just ride on the ski rather than twist and shimmy.

As to what ski I was turning first I would say I really don't know...things were just 'happening' after a while and I wasn't even thinking about it anymore now that I found the feel of the whole ski rather than the tails. Once the skis flattened and I started to turn I noticed I wasn't really doing anything with the new inside ski. I felt as I started to turn I was putting more pressure on the 'new' outside ski and that was the one that I could really feel the edges on. The inside ski I could still feel but it really felt like it was just 'along for the ride' rather than than doing anything. Most of the action was happening on the downhill ski once I started to turn. It was also easier to turn with my hips pushed forward which was almost natural with the new toe lift in the boots.
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